I'm having trouble understanding space inserted around itemize and TABLE objects. I found some great advice from the mailing list archives, and managed to cobble together a setup that *almost* works. Now I have only two problems. I welcome any help. First: In the example below, the word "monkey" creates no vertical space---even if it's commented out, there's no change in the space between "Title" and "alpha". I'd like to tighten that space up---I've been resorting to \vskip{-10ex}, but surely there's a way to not put that space there in the first place. I'm already using packed,intro,joinedup for the itemize in an attempt to shove it as high as possible; is there another way? Second: in the same example, the "Second" subject does not appear. Uncommenting the llama doesn't make any surprising difference (well, it moves the table down, showing that tables don't have the space-filling property of itemizes), but uncommenting the apricot does cause the "Second" subject to appear. How can I force the "Second" subject to appear next to the table? Thank you for any help. \setuphead[subject][alternative=text,distance=0pt,command=\MyHead] \setupinmargin[style=\setupinterlinespace] \def\MyHead#1#2{\margintitle[low]{\rotate{#1 #2}}} \setupitemize[packed,intro,joinedup,KR] \starttext \title{Title} \subject{First} monkey \startitemize[columns] \item alpha \item beta \item gamma \stopitemize \subject{Second} %llama \bTABLE \bTR \bTD One \eTD \eTR \eTABLE \stoptext -- Brian Sniffen http://evenmere.org/~bts/