Hello, I have just checked that my first post to this list was more than 10yrs ago (end of 2002). Then I was working on some full-sized books and ended up with LyX/LaTex. Later, had few attempts to switch to ConTeXt, but as a result I reduced even my LyX/LaTeX usage and was using light markups like rst/AsciiDoc for my writing needs without higher-quality typesetting. Yesterday I had to help my wife to put together some medicine-related presentation for the meeting at her working place and used LyX/LaTeX with Beamer class. Considering that there might be need to do such thing more often in the future as well as possibility that I might have to produce lot of presentations for my public lectures/workshops based on philosophy (iow. no need of math), I am again in the position to consider ConTeXt, but this time mostly for presentations. I'm (well) aware of ConTeXt's advantage in the sense of being complete package without clashing of different packages which usually happens in LaTeX world, I wonder if someone can give some piece of advice to learn and/or switch ConTeXt for preparing presentations instead of learning lot of LaTeX packages? How does ConTeXt compare for the purpose vs LaTeX/Beamer? I'm on Linux (running Debian Sid) and use Vim as my primary editor so wonder if ConTeXt users recommend to e.g. prepare drafts of their documents like rst/AsciiDoc/markdown and then convert them into ConTeXt with tool(s) like Pandoc? Sincerely, Gour -- Therefore, without being attached to the fruits of activities, one should act as a matter of duty, for by working without attachment one attains the Supreme.
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:11:06 +0100
Saša Janiška
Hello,
I have just checked that my first post to this list was more than 10yrs ago (end of 2002). Then I was working on some full-sized books and ended up with LyX/LaTex. Later, had few attempts to switch to ConTeXt, but as a result I reduced even my LyX/LaTeX usage and was using light markups like rst/AsciiDoc for my writing needs without higher-quality typesetting.
Yesterday I had to help my wife to put together some medicine-related presentation for the meeting at her working place and used LyX/LaTeX with Beamer class.
Considering that there might be need to do such thing more often in the future as well as possibility that I might have to produce lot of presentations for my public lectures/workshops based on philosophy (iow. no need of math), I am again in the position to consider ConTeXt, but this time mostly for presentations.
I'm (well) aware of ConTeXt's advantage in the sense of being complete package without clashing of different packages which usually happens in LaTeX world, I wonder if someone can give some piece of advice to learn and/or switch ConTeXt for preparing presentations instead of learning lot of LaTeX packages?
How does ConTeXt compare for the purpose vs LaTeX/Beamer?
I'm on Linux (running Debian Sid) and use Vim as my primary editor so wonder if ConTeXt users recommend to e.g. prepare drafts of their documents like rst/AsciiDoc/markdown and then convert them into ConTeXt with tool(s) like Pandoc?
Beamer presentations look like ... beamer presentations. For something simple using ConTeXt, you might want to look at the simpleslides module. That could be a starting point. Alan
On 2016-01-25, at 21:55, Alan BRASLAU
Beamer presentations look like ... beamer presentations.
Or like presentations given from The One Editor: http://mbork.pl/download/Slides_about_LaTeX_editing.pdf ;-)
For something simple using ConTeXt, you might want to look at the simpleslides module. That could be a starting point.
I used ConTeXt once for a presentation, and then came back to Beamer. Not necessarily because it's better, but I know it quite well, so I could prepare my slides faster. (Also, Emacs support for LaTeX and/or Beamer is better than for ConTeXt.) So I don't have a lot of experience with ConTeXt, but I'll risk an opinion: if you're fine with a simple presentation without much learning, or more learning for a sophisticated presentation, consider ConTeXt. If you don't mind a bit boring look (which some consider an advantage) and/or you want just to copy a template from the docs (even for a bit more sophisticated stuff), try Beamer. Also, you might want to switch to a decent text editor. ;-P Hth, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University
On Pon, 2016-01-25 at 22:15 +0100, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
I used ConTeXt once for a presentation, and then came back to Beamer. Not necessarily because it's better, but I know it quite well, so I could prepare my slides faster.
Hmm, that's valid point.
So I don't have a lot of experience with ConTeXt, but I'll risk an opinion: if you're fine with a simple presentation without much learning, or more learning for a sophisticated presentation, consider ConTeXt. If you don't mind a bit boring look (which some consider an advantage) and/or you want just to copy a template from the docs (even for a bit more sophisticated stuff), try Beamer.
Thank you for sharing.
Also, you might want to switch to a decent text editor. ;-P
I tried twice, but after noticing wrist pain, I said: "Goodbye!". ;) Sincerely, Gour -- Even the intelligent are bewildered in determining what is action and what is inaction. Now I shall explain to you what action is, knowing which you shall be liberated from all misfortune.
On 1/25/2016 9:55 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:11:06 +0100 Saša Janiška
wrote: Hello,
I have just checked that my first post to this list was more than 10yrs ago (end of 2002). Then I was working on some full-sized books and ended up with LyX/LaTex. Later, had few attempts to switch to ConTeXt, but as a result I reduced even my LyX/LaTeX usage and was using light markups like rst/AsciiDoc for my writing needs without higher-quality typesetting.
Yesterday I had to help my wife to put together some medicine-related presentation for the meeting at her working place and used LyX/LaTeX with Beamer class.
Considering that there might be need to do such thing more often in the future as well as possibility that I might have to produce lot of presentations for my public lectures/workshops based on philosophy (iow. no need of math), I am again in the position to consider ConTeXt, but this time mostly for presentations.
I'm (well) aware of ConTeXt's advantage in the sense of being complete package without clashing of different packages which usually happens in LaTeX world, I wonder if someone can give some piece of advice to learn and/or switch ConTeXt for preparing presentations instead of learning lot of LaTeX packages?
How does ConTeXt compare for the purpose vs LaTeX/Beamer?
I'm on Linux (running Debian Sid) and use Vim as my primary editor so wonder if ConTeXt users recommend to e.g. prepare drafts of their documents like rst/AsciiDoc/markdown and then convert them into ConTeXt with tool(s) like Pandoc?
Beamer presentations look like ... beamer presentations.
For something simple using ConTeXt, you might want to look at the simpleslides module. That could be a starting point.
The "Considering that there might be need to do such thing more often in the future as well as possibility that I might have to produce lot of presentations for my public lectures/workshops based on philosophy" is an argument for using context as it permits you to (stepwise) develop your own style. In the s-pre-* modules you can find examples (many of them you can just process to get an idea as they contain examples) ... what style or coding you use depends on what / the way you present. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Uto, 2016-01-26 at 09:56 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
The "Considering that there might be need to do such thing more often in the future as well as possibility that I might have to produce lot of presentations for my public lectures/workshops based on philosophy" is an argument for using context as it permits you to (stepwise)develop your own style.
Thank you for that, Hans!
In the s-pre-* modules you can find examples (many of them you can just process to get an idea as they contain examples) what style or coding you use depends on what / the way you present.
Great! Found examples on my Debian... Sincerely, Gour -- An intelligent person does not take part in the sources of misery, which are due to contact with the material senses. O son of Kuntī, such pleasures have a beginning and an end, and so the wise man does not delight in them.
On Pon, 2016-01-25 at 13:55 -0700, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
Beamer presentations look like ... beamer presentations.
That's very true, indeed!
For something simple using ConTeXt, you might want to look at the simpleslides module. That could be a starting point.
That should be installed by default? Sincerely, Gour -- One who is not disturbed in mind even amidst the threefold miseries or elated when there is happiness, and who is free from attachment, fear and anger, is called a sage of steady mind.
Hi, I have been using Context for all my presentations for many years and I think it is easier to use than any Latex package, since out of the box I can add pictures, menus, graphs of functions, etc. Now, depending on the complexity of what one wants to do, it would be more or less easy to use such and such features. A good start is to begin with the examples set up by Hans and by Aditya and Thomas Schmitz. The examples by Hans are in the directory /tex/texmf-context/tex/context/modules/mkiv of your Context installation, and begin with s-pre-, followed by digits and mkii or mkiv suffix. The examples by Aditya and Thomas are to be found in /tex/texmf-modules/tex/context/third/simpleslides Bets regards: OK
On 25 Jan 2016, at 21:11, Saša Janiška
wrote: Hello,
I have just checked that my first post to this list was more than 10yrs ago (end of 2002). Then I was working on some full-sized books and ended up with LyX/LaTex. Later, had few attempts to switch to ConTeXt, but as a result I reduced even my LyX/LaTeX usage and was using light markups like rst/AsciiDoc for my writing needs without higher-quality typesetting.
Yesterday I had to help my wife to put together some medicine-related presentation for the meeting at her working place and used LyX/LaTeX with Beamer class.
Considering that there might be need to do such thing more often in the future as well as possibility that I might have to produce lot of presentations for my public lectures/workshops based on philosophy (iow. no need of math), I am again in the position to consider ConTeXt, but this time mostly for presentations.
I'm (well) aware of ConTeXt's advantage in the sense of being complete package without clashing of different packages which usually happens in LaTeX world, I wonder if someone can give some piece of advice to learn and/or switch ConTeXt for preparing presentations instead of learning lot of LaTeX packages?
How does ConTeXt compare for the purpose vs LaTeX/Beamer?
I'm on Linux (running Debian Sid) and use Vim as my primary editor so wonder if ConTeXt users recommend to e.g. prepare drafts of their documents like rst/AsciiDoc/markdown and then convert them into ConTeXt with tool(s) like Pandoc?
Sincerely, Gour
-- Therefore, without being attached to the fruits of activities, one should act as a matter of duty, for by working without attachment one attains the Supreme.
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On Pon, 2016-01-25 at 22:56 +0100, Otared Kavian wrote:
I have been using Context for all my presentations for many years and I think it is easier to use than any Latex package, since out of the box I can add pictures, menus, graphs of functions, etc.
That is very encouraging to hear. ;)
A good start is to begin with the examples set up by Hans and by Aditya and Thomas Schmitz.
This is natural answer to my question...
The examples by Hans are in the directory
/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/modules/mkiv
of your Context installation, and begin with s-pre-, followed by digits and mkii or mkiv suffix. The examples by Aditya and Thomas are to be found in
/tex/texmf-modules/tex/context/third/simpleslides
After some additonal install, I was able to localize both type of examples. :-) Now let me jump into some ConTeXt-related learning experience. Sincerely, Gour -- Therefore, without being attached to the fruits of activities, one should act as a matter of duty, for by working without attachment one attains the Supreme.
Am 25.01.2016 um 21:11 schrieb Saša Janiška:
How does ConTeXt compare for the purpose vs LaTeX/Beamer?
For the sake of completeness, have a look at Pandoc, which produces presentations from simple markdown sources in various formats including beamer and some nice looking html based presentations. http://pandoc.org/README.html juh -- Das ZEN von Pandoc Bücher und E-Books einfach und professionell produzieren http://www.amazon.de/Das-ZEN-von-Pandoc-professionell/dp/1505218799/ Paperback (232 Seiten) und E-Book
On 2016-01-26, at 08:34, Jan U. Hasecke
Am 25.01.2016 um 21:11 schrieb Saša Janiška:
How does ConTeXt compare for the purpose vs LaTeX/Beamer?
For the sake of completeness, have a look at Pandoc, which produces presentations from simple markdown sources in various formats including beamer and some nice looking html based presentations.
juh
Also, Org-mode, which has markup similar to Markdown (but better), and can export to a variety of formats (including Beamer and e.g. reveal.js; unfortunately, there's no ConTeXt support, but adding it is a questions of a few hours of simple Emacs Lisp hacking). I heard reports of Vim-ers switching to Emacs because of Org. Turn to the dark side, we have cookies!!! Bwahahaha! (Side note: despite jokes, I have a high respect for Vim. Its UI is plain genius, even if I do not like it personally. The idea of "text objects" and operations on them is really great. I even use hjkl for movement when coding in Elisp, using abo-abo's "lispy" package. The main advantage of Emacs over Vim is not the UI, but the hackability. Also, E & V have different basic assumptions: Vim is much closer to the Unix philosophy, while Emacs does a similar thing, but not on the OS level, but within itself. IOW, Vim is built on top of Unix, and Emacs largely "replaces" it.) Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University
On Uto, 2016-01-26 at 09:57 +0100, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
unfortunately, there's no ConTeXt support, but adding it is a questions of a few hours of simple Emacs Lisp hacking).
Let me just say that I've decided to move to Spacemacs (it's RSI- friendly) along with Org-mode/Gnus etc. However, Emacs Lisp hacking is still just TODO, but wonder if you can share some tips for using AUCTeX with ConTeXt? reveal.js looks interesting, although, in general, I prefer non-JS stuff. Sincerely, Gour -- Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.
On Uto, 2016-01-26 at 08:34 +0100, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:
For the sake of completeness, have a look at Pandoc, which produces presentations from simple markdown sources in various formats including beamer and some nice looking html based presentations.
I usually find too simple and prefer rst/AsciiDoc, but will try that as well. Still, wonder how do you like Pandoc's ability to convert to ConTeXt? Sincerely, Gour -- You have a right to perform your prescribed duty, but you are not entitled to the fruits of action. Never consider yourself the cause of the results of your activities, and never be attached to not doing your duty.
Am 26.01.2016 um 11:22 schrieb Saša Janiška:
Still, wonder how do you like Pandoc's ability to convert to ConTeXt?
I don't use it. ;-) I use Pablo's solution to convert to ConTeXt. https://github.com/ousia/from-pandoc-to-context It adds an additional layer of xml to the process but it suits exactly my needs (book production). juh
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016, Saša Janiška wrote:
I'm (well) aware of ConTeXt's advantage in the sense of being complete package without clashing of different packages which usually happens in LaTeX world, I wonder if someone can give some piece of advice to learn and/or switch ConTeXt for preparing presentations instead of learning lot of LaTeX packages?
How does ConTeXt compare for the purpose vs LaTeX/Beamer?
As others have mentioned, beamer presentations look like beamer presentations. One of the things that I like is that it is relatively easy to create the look that you want. Once you think about it a bit, presentations are no different than regular documents. You can get a reasonable looking presentation by just changing a few defaults: https://randomdeterminism.wordpress.com/2013/01/13/creating-a-clean-presenta... I would recommend creating your own style for simple presentations and slowly add bells and whistles. Aditya
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Aditya Mahajan
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Alan BRASLAU
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Hans Hagen
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Jan U. Hasecke
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Marcin Borkowski
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Otared Kavian
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Saša Janiška