Re: [NTG-context] Going crazy with font conversion (diaeresis)!
Hi Adam,
Adam Lindsay
I'd also ask why, if you have the superior Helvetica Neue working, you're trying to get the plain, no-oblique Helvetica going as well. I see it like the difference between LM and the original CM conversion... the later interpretation is far superior, and much more subtly drawn.
Yes it is, of course! But by using HelveticaNeue as is, there is no kerning information included. The result is quite poor, as you can imagine. And as I don't know how to set a proper kerning (in reasonable time) AND how to get it available in ConTeXt I see no other alternative than using Helvetica and use the kerning information that is included in Adobes afm/tfm/vf files (being part of tetex). But if someone want to show me the path to proper TeX kerning I'd also prefer HelveticaNeue, no doubt! Steffen
Hallo Steffen, On 22 Mar 2005, at 12:03, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
I'd also ask why, if you have the superior Helvetica Neue working, you're trying to get the plain, no-oblique Helvetica going as well. I Yes it is, of course!
But by using HelveticaNeue as is, there is no kerning information included. The result is quite poor, as you can imagine.
Ouch! You're right! That just goes to show how seldom I used the converted Mac fonts... :-/
And as I don't know how to set a proper kerning (in reasonable time) AND how to get it available in ConTeXt I see no other alternative than using Helvetica and use the kerning information that is included in Adobes afm/tfm/vf files (being part of tetex).
But if someone want to show me the path to proper TeX kerning I'd also prefer HelveticaNeue, no doubt!
Okay, it was trickier than I thought.
But I used the .afm obtained from FontForge conversion, and discarded
the .pfb.
afm2pl -p `kpsewhich texnansi.enc` HelveticaNeue.afm
pltotf HelveticaNeue
Because I'm impatient, and wanted a quick test:
\loadmapline[+HelveticaNeue HelveticaNeue " TeXnANSIEncoding
ReEncodeFont "
Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
But by using HelveticaNeue as is, there is no kerning information included. The result is quite poor, as you can imagine. And as I don't know how to set a proper kerning (in reasonable time) AND how to get it available in ConTeXt I see no other alternative than using Helvetica and use the kerning information that is included in Adobes afm/tfm/vf files (being part of tetex).
I'm really wondering why there's no kerning. (Maybe I missed something of the previous discussion) Probably you should check the version numbers of the pfb and then take the original AFMs from Adobe/Linotype. I'm also using Helvetica Neue (total 67 afms) and it works well ;-) Ulrich Dirr
On 22 Mar 2005, at 14:54, Ulrich Dirr wrote:
I'm really wondering why there's no kerning. (Maybe I missed something of the previous discussion) Probably you should check the version numbers of the pfb and then take the original AFMs from Adobe/Linotype.
Short answer (from what I can tell), Apple's TTFs keep the kerning in a different table from MS-centric TTFs. ttf2afm doesn't output any kerns from the font in question. Conclude what you like from that, but remember that Apple invented TrueType :) adam
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