Reconciling unicode-math with LaTeX2e mathematics
Hans Hagen wrote:
you need to be more explicit about the problems you encounter (minimal examples for instance)
To be more precise (please see the enclosed P.D.F. file), I would like the same font possibilities in ConTeXt math mode as shown in the following table from Will Robertson's talk at 41 min 40 s for LaTeX unicode-math package: https://youtu.be/FW9Cwh9sj5w?t=2500 In both LaTeX and ConTeXt, we have two kinds of fonts: — a text font: multi-letter words; — a math font: single letter words. In math mode, using LaTeX, text fonts can use both — text spacing: $\textit{abc ffi}$ gives abc ffi; — math spacing: $\mathit{abc ffi}$ gives abcffi. In math mode, using LaTeX, math fonts can use only math spacing: $abc ffi$ gives abcffi. ($abc ffi$ is equivalent to $\symit{abc ffi}$—\symxx commands were introduced in the 2015 update of the unicode-math package by Will Robertson, allowing upright, slanted, bold, etc. math fonts with \symup, \symsl \symbf, etc., respectively.) However, in math mode, using ConTeXt, text fonts can use only TEXT spacing (no MATH spacing commands): $\text{\it abc ffi}$ gives abc ffi. So this is the FEATURE that needs to be added. I suggest that you implement a new set of commands called \textxx for this (text fonts with MATH spacing in math mode—please see the enclosed P.D.F. file). As far as math fonts are concerned using ConTeXt in math mode, it's okay: $\it{abc ffi}$ gives abcffi. But you should note that in the source of ConTeXt you (Hans) introduced \mathit (and \mathup & \mathtf, \mathsl, \mathbf, etc.) as an equivalent of \it (\tf, \sl, \bf, etc., respectively) for "A.M.S. LaTeX compatibility", though in A.M.S. LaTeX the \mathxx commands are not MATH fonts but TEXT fonts with math spacing (as pointed out by Will Robertson in the very first seconds from 41 min 40 s of his talk in the link above) so it not compatible (but that's fine since the name \mathxx in A.M.S. LaTeX was not very well chosen in the first place but thereafter kept for backward compatibility, so that in ConTeXt we can keep it used for MATH fonts instead and introduce \textxx for TEXT fonts with math spacing, as suggested in the previous paragraph). Please see the enclosed P.D.F. file that sums everything up to understand visually what I mean with the missing feature I request (adding new \textxx commands for text fonts with MATH spacing in math mode), and let me know what you think. Maggyero
On 12/3/2015 3:16 AM, Maggyero wrote:
In both LaTeX and ConTeXt, we have two kinds of fonts: — a text font: multi-letter words; — a math font: single letter words.
In math mode, using LaTeX, text fonts can use both — text spacing: $\textit{abc ffi}$ gives abc ffi; — math spacing: $\mathit{abc ffi}$ gives abcffi.
... okay: $\it{abc ffi}$ gives abcffi. But you should note that in the source of ConTeXt you (Hans) introduced \mathit (and \mathup & \mathtf, \mathsl, \mathbf, etc.) as an equivalent of \it (\tf, \sl, \bf, etc.,
It's a bit different .. traditional tex has 8 bit fonts. Also, in traditional tex math families were implemented using text fonts while in opentype (unicode) math the alphabets come from the math fonts (with math properties). And, as there is some basic ligaturing built in the traditional math code path it will deal with ligatures in such a font. you can consider that an intentional side effect of using text fonts. The context unicode math implementation is different (and quite likely rather different from latex too, if only because it already was done many years ago). Also, the implementation is quite ok (and actually pretty advanced) so changing something in the-latex-way is no option (in whatever way it is done, which i must admit i don't know). Most context math evolved over time and the mentioned commands were introduced already in mkii when aditya extended some code. Anyway, as we have \mathtext (aka \text) we can also have an extra command \mathword which nils the spacing because that is actually what you ask for: space not being a space (math spacing is something else, it would enclose each character with math spacing which contradicts with ligatures). I'll send you some code to play with, Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
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