typescript repository

Wolfgang Schuster

23 Mar 2009 23 Mar '09

2:30 p.m.

Hi all, what do think about a page with typescript files for good quality free fonts, we have a few typescripts on the wiki but you have to copy them first in your document or in a file before you can use them. Wolfgang

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luigi scarso

23 Mar 23 Mar

2:32 p.m.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> what do think about a page with typescript files for good quality free
> fonts,
> we have a few typescripts on the wiki but you have to copy them first in
> your
> document or in a file before you can use them.
+ for me

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luigi

Curiouslearn

3:20 p.m.

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On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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Hi all,

what do think about a page with typescript files for good quality free fonts, we have a few typescripts on the wiki but you have to copy them first in your document or in a file before you can use them.

* * If this would make using these free fonts easier in Context documents...that would be awesome. * * * *

Peter Münster

3:44 p.m.

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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what do think about a page with typescript files for good quality free fonts, we have a few typescripts on the wiki but you have to copy them first in your document or in a file before you can use them.

Good idea! Or perhaps even better: make them available on http://modules.contextgarden.net/ and/or in the minimals and/or in cont-ext.zip (just as urwgothic or urwgaramond for example). Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

Aditya Mahajan

3:46 p.m.

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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Hi all,

what do think about a page with typescript files for good quality free fonts, we have a few typescripts on the wiki but you have to copy them first in your document or in a file before you can use them.

+1 Actually, I would also like to have a free font database, and a script that downloads free fonts and installs them at the correct location. Something along the lines of getnonfreefonts available with TeXLive. Aditya

Mohamed Bana

3:51 p.m.

I personally would like see a "professionally done" typescript for Minion and Warnock Pro with Myriad and Cronos Pro. I posted mine a while ago, but I got no feed back. Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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Hi all,

what do think about a page with typescript files for good quality free fonts, we have a few typescripts on the wiki but you have to copy them first in your document or in a file before you can use them.

Wolfgang

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Wolfgang Schuster

4:11 p.m.

Am 23.03.2009 um 22:51 schrieb Mohamed Bana:

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I personally would like see a "professionally done" typescript for Minion and Warnock Pro with Myriad and Cronos Pro. I posted mine a while ago, but I got no feed back.

Because people need the fonts to make a test and Adobes *free* Minion/ Myriad come only with four styles (no opticals). You could also opticals with MkIV but it requires more work -> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Optical_Size Wolfgang

Bruce D'Arcus

24 Mar 24 Mar

9:27 a.m.

Wolfgang Schuster writes:

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Am 23.03.2009 um 22:51 schrieb Mohamed Bana:

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I personally would like see a "professionally done" typescript for Minion and Warnock Pro with Myriad and Cronos Pro. I posted mine a while ago, but I got no feed back.

Because people need the fonts to make a test and Adobes *free* Minion/ Myriad come only with four styles (no opticals). You could also opticals with MkIV but it requires more work -> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Optical_Size

I think: a) dealing with typescripts in ConteXt is a far bigger problem than it should be b) that it's fantastically good idea to have a repository of typescripts to address this problem c) that there's no reason at all to make a distinction between free and professional fonts in such a repository As for how to do it, I could imagine using the wiki. But I could also imagine some other approach, like someone starting a project on GitHub or something similar. Bruce

Wolfgang Schuster

11:39 a.m.

Am 24.03.2009 um 16:27 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus:

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As for how to do it, I could imagine using the wiki. But I could also imagine some other approach, like someone starting a project on GitHub or something similar.

I did this now, I put a few typescript files online: http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/299e712756a6/ Wolfgang

Bruce D\'Arcus

9:08 p.m.

Wolfgang Schuster writes:

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Am 24.03.2009 um 16:27 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus:

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As for how to do it, I could imagine using the wiki. But I could also imagine some other approach, like someone starting a project on GitHub or something similar.

I did this now, I put a few typescript files online: http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/299e712756a6/

Great! So followup question, then: I saw you added the basic adobe typescripts (thanks!). How best to add opticals support to this? Should the contents from the wiki be added more-or-less as is to that typescript file? Bruce

Mohamed Bana

9:31 p.m.

Beware you might have to replace \definefontsynonym [SerifCaption-Regular] [file:MinionPro-Capt] [features=default] with \definefontsynonym [SerifCaption-Regular] [name:MinionPro-Capt] [features=default] on my install CM is used if "file:" is used. Bruce D'Arcus wrote:

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Wolfgang Schuster writes:

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Am 24.03.2009 um 16:27 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus:

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As for how to do it, I could imagine using the wiki. But I could also imagine some other approach, like someone starting a project on GitHub or something similar.

I did this now, I put a few typescript files online: http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/299e712756a6/

Great!

So followup question, then:

I saw you added the basic adobe typescripts (thanks!). How best to add opticals support to this? Should the contents from the wiki be added more-or-less as is to that typescript file?

Bruce

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Wolfgang Schuster

25 Mar 25 Mar

5:51 a.m.

Am 25.03.2009 um 04:31 schrieb Mohamed Bana:

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Beware you might have to replace

\definefontsynonym [SerifCaption-Regular] [file:MinionPro- Capt] [features=default]

with

\definefontsynonym [SerifCaption-Regular] [name:MinionPro- Capt] [features=default]

Can you test my new version. Wolfgang

Mohamed Bana

7:37 a.m.

Some strange font is used now. \usetypescriptfile[type-optical] % \starttypescript [main] [war] % \definetypeface [war] [rm] [serif] [minion] [optical] % \definetypeface [war] [ss] [sans] [cronos] [optical] % \stoptypescript % \usetypescript[main][war] % \setupbodyfont[war,rm,14pt] \starttypescript [main] \definetypeface [main] [rm] [serif] [minion] [optical] \definetypeface [main] [ss] [sans] [cronos] [optical] \stoptypescript \usetypescript[main] \setupbodyfont[main,14pt] \starttext \input tufte 123456789 {\os 123456789} hello---good morning. between the 4--5. is it type-safe. \blank[5*big] \ss \input tufte 123456789 {\os 123456789} hello---good morning. between the 4--5. is it type-safe. \stoptext Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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Am 25.03.2009 um 04:31 schrieb Mohamed Bana:

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Beware you might have to replace

\definefontsynonym [SerifCaption-Regular] [file:MinionPro-Capt] [features=default]

with

\definefontsynonym [SerifCaption-Regular] [name:MinionPro-Capt] [features=default]

Can you test my new version.

Wolfgang

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Wolfgang Schuster

8:33 a.m.

Am 25.03.2009 um 14:37 schrieb Mohamed Bana:

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Some strange font is used now.

A fixed version is in the repository. Wolfgang

Mohamed Bana

8:42 a.m.

it works, great! thanks Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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Am 25.03.2009 um 14:37 schrieb Mohamed Bana:

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Some strange font is used now.

A fixed version is in the repository.

Wolfgang

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Henning Hraban Ramm

26 Mar 26 Mar

3:35 a.m.

I'd suggest to agree on a unified naming system, like type-VENDOR-FONT.tex or organize the typescript in directories like the fonts themselves. I guess I should update my old public typescripts to LuaTeX soon... WRTT: Can we agree to only provide MkIV typescripts? (I hope their format is stable now?) Can we agree on some versioning? (If we keep the files in some git/svn repository that should be no problem, we can just checkout the latest version.) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)

Wolfgang Schuster

4 a.m.

Am 26.03.2009 um 10:35 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:

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I'd suggest to agree on a unified naming system, like type-VENDOR-FONT.tex or organize the typescript in directories like the fonts themselves.

Feel free to change my files.

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I guess I should update my old public typescripts to LuaTeX soon... WRTT: Can we agree to only provide MkIV typescripts? (I hope their format is stable now?)

My typescripts should work with XeTeX and LuaTeX. Look into type-mac.(tex|mkii|mkiv) (shipped with ConTeXt) how to give each of them their preferred font names.

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Can we agree on some versioning? (If we keep the files in some git/ svn repository that should be no problem, we can just checkout the latest version.)

http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/ Wolfgang

Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد

24 Mar 24 Mar

5:14 p.m.

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:27:09 -0600, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:

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c) that there's no reason at all to make a distinction between free and professional fonts in such a repository

I absolutely agree with Bruce on this point :-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

Marcin Borkowski

25 Mar 25 Mar

1:24 a.m.

Dnia Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 05:14:49PM -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد napisał(a):

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On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:27:09 -0600, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:

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c) that there's no reason at all to make a distinction between free and professional fonts in such a repository

I absolutely agree with Bruce on this point :-)

And I strongly disagree. A repository of that kind would be a great idea, but at least one column in the table (price, or just "free: Y/N") would be very useful - especially for people like me, who cannot afford expensive commercial fonts. And note that the distinction is *not* between "free" and "professional", but rather "free" and "commercial". Aren't LM or TeX Gyre professional;)?

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Best wishes Idris

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Bruce D\\\'Arcus

7:52 a.m.

Marcin Borkowski writes:

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Dnia Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 05:14:49PM -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي

حامد napisał(a):

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On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:27:09 -0600, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:

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c) that there's no reason at all to make a distinction between free and professional fonts in such a repository

I absolutely agree with Bruce on this point

And I strongly disagree. A repository of that kind would be a great idea, but at least one column in the table (price, or just "free: Y/N") would be very useful - especially for people like me, who cannot afford expensive commercial fonts.

OK, let me rephrase: I mean there's no reason to exclude commercial font tyepscripts from the repository. Also, I think it would be useful to include availability information in the file (if possible) regardless of the whether it's free or commercial.

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And note that the distinction is *not* between "free" and "professional", but rather "free" and "commercial". Aren't LM or TeX Gyre professional;)?

You're right that my word choice was wrong. OTOH, I think LM looks like crap ;-) But your wording is also a little loose; "free" is rather vague, and licensing details matter quite a lot with fonts. Bruce

Marcin Borkowski

8:30 a.m.

Dnia Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 01:52:34PM +0000, Bruce D\\\'Arcus napisał(a):

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Marcin Borkowski writes:

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Dnia Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 05:14:49PM -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي

حامد napisał(a):

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On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:27:09 -0600, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:

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c) that there's no reason at all to make a distinction between free and professional fonts in such a repository

I absolutely agree with Bruce on this point

And I strongly disagree. A repository of that kind would be a great idea, but at least one column in the table (price, or just "free: Y/N") would be very useful - especially for people like me, who cannot afford expensive commercial fonts.

OK, let me rephrase: I mean there's no reason to exclude commercial font tyepscripts from the repository.

Also, I think it would be useful to include availability information in the file (if possible) regardless of the whether it's free or commercial.

That's right.

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And note that the distinction is *not* between "free" and "professional", but rather "free" and "commercial". Aren't LM or TeX Gyre professional;)?

You're right that my word choice was wrong. OTOH, I think LM looks like crap ;-)

Well, it's just Computer Modern revamped;).

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But your wording is also a little loose; "free" is rather vague, and licensing details matter quite a lot with fonts.

That's true, too; licensing and intellectual property law resemble a jungle...

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Bruce

Regards -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) Well, I admit that I quite like the Emacs operating system. The only problem with it is that it lacks a good ASCII editor.

Hans Hagen

26 Mar 26 Mar

3:04 a.m.

Marcin Borkowski wrote:

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And note that the distinction is *not* between "free" and "professional", but rather "free" and "commercial". Aren't LM or TeX Gyre professional;)? You're right that my word choice was wrong. OTOH, I think LM looks like crap ;-)

that's personal; what fonts you use and like somehow relates to the content and nature of the book anyhow, this repos / table ... can we also add info about features and to what extend they are supported? i.e. the quality of the feature support in a font an dmaybe the defaults? Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Arthur Reutenauer

3:13 a.m.

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anyhow, this repos / table ... can we also add info about features and to what extend they are supported? i.e. the quality of the feature support in a font an dmaybe the defaults?

Oh yes, that would be great. Seeing the output of otfinfo -f, or anything equivalent, would be immensively helpful in the choice of a font. Arthur

luigi scarso

3:23 a.m.

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

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anyhow, this repos / table ... can we also add info about features and to what extend they are supported? i.e. the quality of the feature support in a font an dmaybe the defaults?

Oh yes, that would be great. Seeing the output of otfinfo -f, or anything equivalent, would be immensively helpful in the choice of a font. May I suggest ttx ? http://www.letterror.com/code/ttx/

-- luigi

Wolfgang Schuster

3:29 a.m.

Am 26.03.2009 um 10:13 schrieb Arthur Reutenauer:

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anyhow, this repos / table ... can we also add info about features and to what extend they are supported? i.e. the quality of the feature support in a font an dmaybe the defaults?

Oh yes, that would be great. Seeing the output of otfinfo -f, or anything equivalent, would be immensively helpful in the choice of a font.

This is what I want to do with my fontbook project, a book with samples of free fonts (left side all style plus features, right side example text). Adobe provides a font with a few symbols of opentype features The document is in a earyl state and I try to automate large parts (save font related information like name, feature, typescript etc. in a lua table or xml file) and to find a better example text (english, continued text, the gutenberg project offers nice texts). [1] http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/fontbook/ [2] http://www.fontspace.com/adobe/otf-icons (can't find the original link from Adobe) Wolfgang

Hans Hagen

3:50 a.m.

Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

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anyhow, this repos / table ... can we also add info about features and to what extend they are supported? i.e. the quality of the feature support in a font an dmaybe the defaults?

Oh yes, that would be great. Seeing the output of otfinfo -f, or anything equivalent, would be immensively helpful in the choice of a font.

or better mtxrun --script --font --list --info .... as then i can later add extra info about this quality (as i can create a database for fonts) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Wolfgang Schuster

25 Mar 25 Mar

8:40 a.m.

Am 25.03.2009 um 14:52 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus:

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And I strongly disagree. A repository of that kind would be a great idea, but at least one column in the table (price, or just "free: Y/ N") would be very useful - especially for people like me, who cannot afford expensive commercial fonts.

OK, let me rephrase: I mean there's no reason to exclude commercial font tyepscripts from the repository.

Also, I think it would be useful to include availability information in the file (if possible) regardless of the whether it's free or commercial.

I prefer a page on the wiki or a file with a list of fonts and the corresponding typescript file. Wolfgang

Diego Depaoli

23 Mar 23 Mar

4 p.m.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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Hi all,

what do think about a page with typescript files for good quality free fonts, we have a few typescripts on the wiki but you have to copy them first in your document or in a file before you can use them.

I agree. Quoting myself (answering to Mojca)

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Instead, what you think about a repository with tested working typescripts? A lot of messages in list are fonts-related. We could create a page with: fontname, license, url, url-typescript-download.

-- Diego Depaoli

luigi scarso

4 p.m.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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Hi all,

what do think about a page with typescript files for good quality free fonts, we have a few typescripts on the wiki but you have to copy them first in your document or in a file before you can use them.

Wolfgang

May I suggest to consider http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/ ? (by Thomas S., if I remember well) -- luigi

Alan Stone

24 Mar 24 Mar

4:17 a.m.

Zuuuper idee! Alan On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Wolfgang Schuster < schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:

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Hi all,

what do think about a page with typescript files for good quality free fonts, we have a few typescripts on the wiki but you have to copy them first in your document or in a file before you can use them.

Wolfgang

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Wolfgang Schuster

25 Mar 25 Mar

2:43 p.m.

Hi, the repository [1] has now a few typescripts from me but it would be nice if other people can contribute more files for other fonts. Another thing I need is a license for the files because I need one for CTAN submission and TeXLive inclusion. [1] http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/ Wolfgang

Mohamed Bana

26 Mar 26 Mar

12:38 p.m.

does anyone use Asana Math? Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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Hi,

the repository [1] has now a few typescripts from me but it would be nice if other people can contribute more files for other fonts.

Another thing I need is a license for the files because I need one for CTAN submission and TeXLive inclusion.

[1] http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/

Wolfgang

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Aditya Mahajan

12:44 p.m.

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Mohamed Bana wrote:

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does anyone use Asana Math?

I do. Right now, mostly for testing purposes. Aditya

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Diego Depaoli
Hans Hagen
Henning Hraban Ramm
Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
luigi scarso
Marcin Borkowski
Mohamed Bana
Peter Münster
Wolfgang Schuster