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"Taco" == Taco Hoekwater writes:

Taco> If it has .dev or .rpm (or an import function thereof) you could Taco> use Norberts packages instead of the 'upstream' releases? No it uses source deployment, although it's possible to use binaries as well. NixOS puts all the build packages in separate folder and does not use standard /usr /lib /lib etc. folders, but one is assured that build deps are always correct, as well as ability to e.g. have multiple versions of some libs, atomic updates, easy to rollback to some previous 'generation'...see http://nixos.org/releases/nix/nix-0.11/manual/#sec-profiles Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D ----------------------------------------------------------------

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"Taco" == Taco Hoekwater writes:

Taco> It sounds intriguing, but I have no time to look into it. Yes, it is, but it's better for you to wait a bit and do luatex. NixOS will hopefully become more user-friendly with the time. Let me help 'em to have proper luatex support... Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D ----------------------------------------------------------------

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"Mojca" == Mojca Miklavec writes:

Mojca> I can put any files on the server and can reshuffle them if Mojca> needed, but you need to send me some kind of specifications what Mojca> exactly you need. Well, I'm mostly interested if there is a plan to make some kind of 'release' for Minimals, or periodically to provide a kind of 'stable snapshot' 'cause rsync-update in not in 'sync' with NiXOS philosophy? Mojca> I can also put a nixos package to the garden, but you need to Mojca> prepare it (and possibly provide the proper binaries). Try to Mojca> shuffle the files on your local machine and play with it to see Mojca> if it works. Unfortunately, due to Murphy's law, the main server (no mirrors yet) is still down from the last week (it hit right before the holidays in Netherlands), so I'm waiting for a server to come back online (probably tomorrow). Then I can install NiXOS and play with Minimals. Mojca> Would you like to provide sources or binaries? I'd like to provide both - source expression can go into NiXOS's svn trunk, while it would be nice to have binaries available at contextgarden. Mojca> Man pages? Improve mtx-update.lua? Some other things as well, Mojca> I'll try to move everything to the new server in some reasonable Mojca> time. Thank you for reply. Let me move my laptop to NixOS first, then I plan to help having Minimals available for it. Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D ----------------------------------------------------------------

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"Mojca" == Mojca Miklavec writes:

Mojca> I got exactly the same question asked yesterday (concerning Mac Mojca> installer). Interesting...something is in the ether ;) Mojca> I don't know anyone who would be volunteering to do torture Mojca> tests, except that Sanjoy did some basic work by collecing test Mojca> files, but they do not run automatically, and a more extensive Mojca> system is needed. In ~two weeks I'll finish with some other assignments and then there will be more time for testing as well. Mojca> Te main idea about the minimals was to reduce web traffic by Mojca> providing a quick way to update o the latest version o Mojca> everything. In the case of a proper package one till needs to Mojca> download 100 MB each time and has no option to choose what to Mojca> install. But that's fine by me if people want to use the files Mojca> that way. I see that Minimals offer great advantage for those not wanting to taint their texlive installations as well as those using e.g. ConTeXt/luaTeX only. Mojca> However, torture tests are waiting for volunteers. It's not a Mojca> problem to provide stable snapshot, but to decide which one is Mojca> stable. It does not matter. If the newer 'stable' snapshot is broken, it's easy (in NixOS) to just rollback ;) Thank you for your work on Minimals. I'll join to help... Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D ----------------------------------------------------------------