Dear cartel, I would like to trace a layout within a framedtexts environment. That is, I would like to setup a layout within framed texts and get the equivalent of \showframe for those framed texts. Can it be done? The following is a test file: ========================= \setupframedtexts[location=middle] \setuplayout[width=middle] \starttext \input knuth \startframedtext \showframe % does nothing here \input zapf \stopframedtext \input knuth \stoptext ========================= Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/