On my system I already have Cygwin. I want to install the standalone Context.
Which involves basically:
mkdir -o /opt/context
cd /opt/context
wget "http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/first-setup.sh
chmod 744 first-setup.sh
./first-setup.sh
#this works up to this point only partially.
- /opt/context/tex is not installed. This is a bad error. It causes
- first-setup.sh to fail.
And what is loaded will cause conflicts with cygwin which already exists, I believe.
I can't see why rsync is use to load anothe versio of rsync in a diff location.
#1. Why does 1st setup duplicate Cygwin dlls? I've hurd that having multiple
cygwin*.dlls can cause problems. Besideds They already exist and so does
luatex.exe for that matter. 'first-setup.sh' should know that it does a test
for CYGWIN, but doesn't seem to do anything with it.
#2. Also redundant and confusing is first-setup.sh forces the fetching of rsync by
an already existing rsync. Is rsync already exists, why fetch another one and
put it in a different location.
I have texlive for unix on a cygwin platform, on top of an XP system.
I want to make installing the standalone easy for cyginw and linux.
#
# Firstly, exactly what packages are needed for context?
# I assume it's one or more of the mtx prefixed programs below. Please advise.
- mtx-update.lua
- mtxrun.exe
- mtxrun.dll
- mtxrun.lua
- lua52.dll
- luatex.dll Is this needed in addition to luatex.exe?
- luatex.exe
On 3/1/2014 1:42 PM, hwitloc@gmail.com wrote:
On my system I already have Cygwin. I want to install the standalone Context.
Which involves basically:
mkdir -o /opt/context cd /opt/context wget "http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/first-setup.sh chmod 744 first-setup.sh ./first-setup.sh
#this works up to this point only partially.
- /opt/context/tex is not installed. This is a bad error. It causes - first-setup.sh to fail.
And what is loaded will cause conflicts with cygwin which already exists, I believe. I can't see why rsync is use to load anothe versio of rsync in a diff location.
#1. Why does 1st setup duplicate Cygwin dlls? I've hurd that having multiple cygwin*.dlls can cause problems. Besideds They already exist and so does luatex.exe for that matter. 'first-setup.sh' should know that it does a test for CYGWIN, but doesn't seem to do anything with it.
at some point we will switch to mingw rsync (has been tested a while ago) so then the dll's will go
#2. Also redundant and confusing is first-setup.sh forces the fetching of rsync by an already existing rsync. Is rsync already exists, why fetch another one and put it in a different location.
because figuring out what is available is more work (and we want the rsync to match the one at the server)
I have texlive for unix on a cygwin platform, on top of an XP system.
I want to make installing the standalone easy for cyginw and linux.
afaik it's easy alreasdu on linux
# # Firstly, exactly what packages are needed for context? # I assume it's one or more of the mtx prefixed programs below. Please advise.
- mtx-update.lua
- mtxrun.exe - mtxrun.dll - mtxrun.lua
- lua52.dll - luatex.dll Is this needed in addition to luatex.exe? - luatex.exe
- kpathsea620.dll
I understand that there are not a lot of people experimenting with the latest ConTeXt and even less for the Cygin platform. But, I would like to make it easer and clearer for Cygwin users who do want to experiement with the latest versions.
eh .. i bet tat most users use the latest context but you're probably right that not that many users are on cygwin (if u need unix alongside windows i use a vm) as there are native windows binaries (makes me wonder if these can be run inside cygwin)
I don't know if installing for a native linux version is easier or more straightforward or not
installing on linux or osx or windows is equally straightforward (same process once you donloaded the installation files); updating is even less work Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hi, I'm sending the reply with a tiny bit of delay ... but I would be grateful for some testing of modifications I have done. --------------------- It took me a while to actually understand the problem. cygwin support has an interesting history: - at first, no support - then tried to setup the support by native cygwin binaries - the original On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:42 PM, wrote:
On my system I already have Cygwin. I want to install the standalone Context.
Which involves basically:
mkdir -o /opt/context cd /opt/context wget "http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/first-setup.sh chmod 744 first-setup.sh ./first-setup.sh
#this works up to this point only partially.
- /opt/context/tex is not installed. This is a bad error. It causes - first-setup.sh to fail.
And what is loaded will cause conflicts with cygwin which already exists, I believe. I can't see why rsync is use to load anothe versio of rsync in a diff location.
#1. Why does 1st setup duplicate Cygwin dlls?
Because 99% of Windows users don't have rsync installed. And because the version of rsync we are using links against cygwin's dlls. But if you ask why it fetched that under cygwin, the answer is most probably "because everyone attempting to install minimals under cygwin gave up or vanished before we were able to fix the issues".
I've hurd that having multiple cygwin*.dlls can cause problems. Besideds They already exist and so does luatex.exe for that matter. 'first-setup.sh' should know that it does a test for CYGWIN, but doesn't seem to do anything with it.
#2. Also redundant and confusing is first-setup.sh forces the fetching of rsync by an already existing rsync. Is rsync already exists, why fetch another one and put it in a different location.
In past we had special cygwin-specific binaries, but those building them gave up. So we switched to fetching the "regular" windows binaries and forgot about the fact that cygwin users wouldn't want to install rsync & cygwin's dlls.
I have texlive for unix on a cygwin platform, on top of an XP system.
I want to make installing the standalone easy for cyginw and linux.
On linux it should be easy already, but if you have some specific suggestion(s), let me know.
# # Firstly, exactly what packages are needed for context? # I assume it's one or more of the mtx prefixed programs below. Please advise.
- mtx-update.lua
- mtxrun.exe - mtxrun.dll - mtxrun.lua
- lua52.dll - luatex.dll Is this needed in addition to luatex.exe?
Yes, luatex.exe is only 1.5K and depends on it.
- luatex.exe
Probably yes (unless you have a different version of luatex yourself).
- kpathsea620.dll
I didn't understand.
I understand that there are not a lot of people experimenting with the latest ConTeXt and even less for the Cygin platform.
There are a lot of people using the latest ConTeXt (for a certain meaning of "a lot": it's definitely less than the number of latex or MS Word users, but still a reasonable number). But the cross section of those and cygwin users might well be asymptotically approaching zero (or one, now that you are attempting it).
But, I would like to make it easier and clearer for Cygwin users who do want to experiement with the latest versions.
I tried to fix a few problems. Can you please try again.
I don't know if installing for a native linux version is easier or more straightforward or not.
At least there should not be any problems with fetching rsync and shared libraries on Linux. Feel free to try. Mojca
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