I think it would be nice to have the manuals improved in the following not very costly way (??? indicates my ignorance): \setuplayout[..,..=..,..] width dimension fit middle ..... width, ??? and orientation of main text height dimension fit middle ..... height of main text backspace dimension topspace dimension margin dimension nx number..................... ??? ny number..................... ??? dx dimension.................. ??? dy dimension.................. ??? lines number..................... number of lines on the page [I don't know the relation to height] grid yes no..................... invoking setting to grit Since the manual doesn't even mention all those options, even a very short hint is much better than just trying around to get an idea what's the idea of an option. Greetings M. Vogel At 11:41 14.06.2003 +0200, you wrote: Send ntg-context mailing list submissions to ntg-context@ntg.nl To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ntg-context-request@ntg.nl You can reach the person managing the list at ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ntg-context digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: texexec (Raimund Kohl) 2. Re: XML attributes (Jedrzej Nasiadek) 3. Re: encodings (Morten =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F8gholm?=) 4. texexec (Raimund Kohl-Fuechsle) 5. Re: texexec (Raimund Kohl-Fuechsle) 6. Re: XML attributes (Hans Hagen) 7. Double bar means hyphen? (John Culleton) 8. Re: Double bar means hyphen? (Phil Rooke) 9. Re: Double bar means hyphen? (wmcclain@salamander.com) 10. Re: Double bar means hyphen? (Ed L Cashin) 11. Re: Re: encodings (Giuseppe Bilotta) 12. Re: Double bar means hyphen? (Adam Lindsay) 13. Re: Double bar means hyphen? (Adam Lindsay) 14. Re: Double bar means hyphen? (Hans Hagen) 15. Re: Runtime graphics (Hans Hagen) 16. Re: differences of table modes (Hans Hagen) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Raimund Kohl To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Subject: Re: [NTG-context] texexec Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:00:23 +0200 Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl On Thursday 12 June 2003 15:18, Raimund Kohl wrote: On Thursday 12 June 2003 15:18, Raimund Kohl wrote:

I run Debian Woody 3.01r and if I call

texexec --make de

it says

"warning : texexec.ini not found; try 'texexec --verbose'

TeXExec 2.5 -ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997 - 2001

locating ini file : not found by kpsewhich locating ini file : not found by searching locating ini file : no environment variable set locating ini file : not found in own path

so, what am I going to do? I found "texexec" in /usr/share/texmf/context/config ... am I to make a link? Let's say to /home/user/texmf?

ok, I made a link to /home/user/texmf. Running texexec now works ... seemingly. But if I process Testfile.tex \starttex Hallo Hallo \stoptext with texexec Testfile the message is: TexExec 2.5 ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE ... executable : pdftex format : cont-en inputfile : Testtex output : standard interface : en current mode : all TeX run : 1 This is pdfTex, Version 3.14159-1.00-pretest-20011114-ojmw-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.7) Sorry, I can't find the format 'cont-en.efmt'; will try 'context.efmt'. I can't find the format file 'context.efmt'! How do I deal with that? ray --__--__-- Message: 2 To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Subject: Re: [NTG-context] XML attributes From: Jedrzej Nasiadek Date: 06 Jun 2003 22:55:27 +0200 Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl

\defineXMLenvironment [var] {\xdef\varname{\XMLpar{var}{name}{blah}} \NC \varname \NC } {\NC\NR }

Hah! Now it works like charm :-) Thanks Simon! Jedrzej --__--__-- Message: 3 To: ntg-context@ref.ntg.nl From: Morten =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F8gholm?= Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 05:14:52 +0200 Subject: [NTG-context] Re: encodings Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

Saturday, June 7, 2003 Johannes Hüsing wrote:

JH> allallallallallong long li long long long

Those are the lyrics of a song, which I know I've heard. Would you mind reminding me which song it was?

It's called "Sweat (A La La La La Long)" and it's by the band "Inner Circle" from their 1993 album "Bad Boys". Haven't heard this song since I was fifteen -- it is indeed a la la la la long li long long long time ago... -- Morten Høgholm. Beware of my cheesy address! www.student.cbs.dk/moho01ab --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Raimund Kohl-Fuechsle To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:04:28 +0200 Subject: [NTG-context] texexec Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Hello there, I love working with ConTeXt, and never had to think about it much since SuSE makes it realy easy ... but now I switched to Debian, and all of a sudden have to face some trouble :-)) I run Debian Woody 3.01r and if I call texexec --make de it says "warning : texexec.ini not found; try 'texexec --verbose' TeXExec 2.5 -ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997 - 2001 locating ini file : not found by kpsewhich locating ini file : not found by searching locating ini file : no environment variable set locating ini file : not found in own path so, what am I going to do? I found "texexec" in /usr/share/texmf/context/config ... am I to make a link? Let's say to /home/user/texmf? Thanks in advance ray --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Raimund Kohl-Fuechsle To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Subject: Re: [NTG-context] texexec Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:57:10 +0200 Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl On Thursday 12 June 2003 15:18, Raimund Kohl wrote:

I run Debian Woody 3.01r and if I call

texexec --make de

it says

"warning : texexec.ini not found; try 'texexec --verbose'

TeXExec 2.5 -ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997 - 2001

locating ini file : not found by kpsewhich locating ini file : not found by searching locating ini file : no environment variable set locating ini file : not found in own path

so, what am I going to do? I found "texexec" in /usr/share/texmf/context/config ... am I to make a link? Let's say to /home/user/texmf?

ok, I made a link to /home/user/texmf. Running texexec now works ... seemingly. But if I process Testfile.tex \starttex Hallo Hallo \stoptext with texexec Testfile the message is: TexExec 2.5 ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE ... executable : pdftex format : cont-en inputfile : Testtex output : standard interface : en current mode : all TeX run : 1 This is pdfTex, Version 3.14159-1.00-pretest-20011114-ojmw-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.7) Sorry, I can't find the format 'cont-en.efmt'; will try 'context.efmt'. I can't find the format file 'context.efmt'! How do I deal with that? ray --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:18:57 +0200 To: ntg-context@ntg.nl From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [NTG-context] XML attributes Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl At 22:55 06/06/2003 +0200, you wrote:

...

\defineXMLenvironment [var] {\xdef\varname{\XMLpar{var}{name}{blah}} \NC \varname \NC } {\NC\NR }

Hah! Now it works like charm :-) Thanks Simon!

or better: \defineXMLenvironment [var] {\expanded {\NC \XMLpar {var} {name}} \NC} {\NC \NR} since you need the expanded value in a collected content like tabulate Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --__--__-- Message: 7 From: John Culleton To: "Context-nl" Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:31:41 -0400 Subject: [NTG-context] Double bar means hyphen? Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In some of the sample texts that come with Context (Zapf etc.) the double= bar=20 is used to indicate a hyphen, perhaps an unbreakable hyphen. In pdftex it= =20 translated to an em? dash instead. Is this combination documented somewhere? || --=20 John Culleton Able Typesetters and Indexers --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Phil Rooke" To: Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Double bar means hyphen? Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 20:43:03 +0100 Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl

Is this combination documented somewhere? ||

There is some discussion in the reference manual Section 7.8 p. 133 --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:50:53 -0500 From: wmcclain@salamander.com To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Double bar means hyphen? Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:31:41 -0400 John Culleton wrote:

In some of the sample texts that come with Context (Zapf etc.) the double bar is used to indicate a hyphen, perhaps an unbreakable hyphen. In pdftex it translated to an em? dash instead.

Is this combination documented somewhere? ||

The default is supposed to be an en-dash, but this can be changed. See section 7.8 "Composed words" in "ConTeXt the Manual". -Bill -- Sattre Press Pagan Papers http://sattre-press.com/ by Kenneth Grahame info@sattre-press.com http://pp.sattre-press.com/ --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:12:13 -0400 From: Ed L Cashin To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Double bar means hyphen? Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 02:50:53PM -0500, wmcclain@salamander.com wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:31:41 -0400 John Culleton wrote:

...

In some of the sample texts that come with Context (Zapf etc.) the double bar is used to indicate a hyphen, perhaps an unbreakable hyphen. In pdftex it translated to an em? dash instead.

Is this combination documented somewhere? ||

The default is supposed to be an en-dash, but this can be changed. See section 7.8 "Composed words" in "ConTeXt the Manual".

I always use explicit hyphen like this: Don't second|-|guess me. -- --Ed L Cashin | PGP public key: ecashin@uga.edu | http://noserose.net/e/pgp/ --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:20:33 +0200 From: Giuseppe Bilotta To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Re: encodings Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Wednesday, June 11, 2003 Morten H=F8gholm wrote: MH> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

...

=20 Saturday, June 7, 2003 Johannes H=FCsing wrote: =20 =20 JH> allallallallallong long li long long long =20 Those are the lyrics of a song, which I know I've heard. Would you mind reminding me which song it was? =20 MH> It's called "Sweat (A La La La La Long)" and it's by the band "Inn= er MH> Circle" from their 1993 album "Bad Boys".=20

MH> Haven't heard this song since I was fifteen -- it is indeed a la l= a la MH> la long li long long long time ago... Thank you :) --=20 Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta --__--__-- Message: 12 From: "Adam Lindsay" To: Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Double bar means hyphen? Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 23:14:18 +0100 Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl The character is a compoundhyphen, actually created by mashing two hyphens together. Look at the definition in supp-lan.tex. It really doesn't work well in certain fonts where the hyphen is subtly shaped. cheers, adam John Culleton said this at Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:31:41 -0400:

In some of the sample texts that come with Context (Zapf etc.) the double bar is used to indicate a hyphen, perhaps an unbreakable hyphen. In pdftex it translated to an em? dash instead.

Is this combination documented somewhere? || -- John Culleton Able Typesetters and Indexers _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Computing Dept, Lancaster University +44(0)1524/594.537 Lancaster, LA1 4YR, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/593.608 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- --__--__-- Message: 13 From: "Adam Lindsay" To: , "Ed L Cashin" Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Double bar means hyphen? Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 23:21:34 +0100 Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Ed L Cashin said this at Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:12:13 -0400:

I always use explicit hyphen like this:

Don't second|-|guess me.

If it really is always, you can save a little effort with: \setuphyphenmark[sign=-] (This relates to an issue I mentioned earlier: anyone notice how these compound word marks *don't* interact well with font handling/hanging?) adam -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Computing Dept, Lancaster University +44(0)1524/594.537 Lancaster, LA1 4YR, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/593.608 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- --__--__-- Message: 14 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 10:57:13 +0200 To: ntg-context@ntg.nl From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Double bar means hyphen? Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl At 23:21 13/06/2003 +0100, you wrote:

Ed L Cashin said this at Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:12:13 -0400:

...

I always use explicit hyphen like this:

Don't second|-|guess me.

If it really is always, you can save a little effort with:

\setuphyphenmark[sign=-]

(This relates to an issue I mentioned earlier: anyone notice how these compound word marks *don't* interact well with font handling/hanging?)

yes, sometimes they are boxed thingies and they don't hang; for this the concept of hanging should be extended (something \hangme {left} {right} {material}); i discussed this long ago with thanh but it didn't (yet) end up in pdftex -) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --__--__-- Message: 15 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 11:06:11 +0200 To: ntg-context@ntg.nl From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Runtime graphics Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl At 01:34 13/06/2003 -0400, you wrote:

Hi,

I run this simple test file test.tex :

%&cont-en \setupoutput[pdftex] \runMPgraphicstrue \starttext \startMPrun input graphserieA \stopMPrun \externalfigure[mprun.1] \externalfigure[mprun.2] % \startMPrun input graphserieB \stopMPrun \externalfigure[mprun.1] \externalfigure[mprun.2] \stoptext \end .

In the logfile, I got the messages :

figures : figureobject test-mprun.1 is reused figures : figureobject test-mprun.2 is reused

and twice the figures of graphserieA.mp on test.pdf.

Is there a way to avoid the re-use of test-mprun.1 and test-mprun.2, I mean a way to overwrite the files test-mprun.1 and test-mprun.2 ?

Or a way to get different names for each metapost output as, for example, graphserieA-mprun.1, graphserieA-mprun.2 and graphserieB-mprun.1, graphserieB-mprun.2 ?

I could also give a different number to each of the figures in all of the *.mp files, but this solution is not pacticable since I have plenty of metapost files to process, each of it containing a lot of figures already numbered with almost the same numbers. Moreover, those numbers can not be modified because the figures are elsewhere referenced by their number and by the name of the metapost file.

You can redefine: \def\MPrunfile#1{\bufferprefix mprun.#1} to for instance \def\MPrunfile#1{\bufferprefix \MyMpRunFile.#1} \def\MyMpRunFile{mprun} and them change the definition of \MyMpRunFile whenever you want Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --__--__-- Message: 16 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 11:15:56 +0200 To: ntg-context@ntg.nl From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [NTG-context] differences of table modes Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl At 18:32 12/06/2003 +0200, you wrote:

Ahoi!

I just reviewed my german ConTeXt tutorial and tried to tell the truth about all the table modes. Please correct me if I'm wrong:

* tabulate - can break over several pages - [start|stop]tabulate[head|tail] should define a repeated head/tail, but it doesn't work

works here \starttext \starttabulatehead \NC left \NC right \NC \NR \stoptabulatehead \starttabulate[|l|r|] \NC l \NC r \NC \NR \stoptabulate \stoptext

- documented in the manual (cont-en[i|p])

- handles (multiple) paragraphs with the "p" template entry - works well with grids - supports text backgrounds

* table - cannot break - based on Wichura's TaBlE (others not) - can be used as float (others not?)

all can be used as floats

- documentation commercial at pctex.com (39 $), partly docs in "ConTeXt - an excursion" (m[s|p]-cb-en)

* tables - same as table, but can break over several pages - [start|stop]table[head|tail] works - nowhere documented?

in my still to be included chapter if the manual it is -)

* TABLE - didn't try page breaks yet; should it work?

yes, if split is set to yes

- [b|e]TABLE works; should [start|stop]TABLE also?

no, at least not yet; has to do with grabbing

- docs: up-to-date 8 (no link on HP!), enattab

* new table mode? I remember Hans wrote about a new enhanced table mode, but can't find the mail.

core-ltb: line tables, auto break vertically and horizontally across pages, repeated rows / columns, etc will be documented Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --__--__-- _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context End of ntg-context Digest