Re: [NTG-context] Migrating from prosper to simpleslides in creating presentations
Thanks Wolfgang and Marco for the quick responses. Marco, `impressive' looks just the thing that will easily allow me to add transitions while still using simpleslides to get me going until I can do my own DIY slides. Regards. -- ----- - Pavneet Arora Waroc Fine Audio + Custom Home Cinema www.waroc.com 416.937.WAROC (9276)
On 12/06/2011 11:40 PM, Pavneet Arora wrote:
Thanks Wolfgang and Marco for the quick responses. Marco, `impressive' looks just the thing that will easily allow me to add transitions while still using simpleslides to get me going until I can do my own DIY slides.
Regards.
Glad you found a solution. Maybe just a word explaining why I find it a waste of time to do work on such transitions in simpleslides: even if we accept, for the sake of the argument, that such transitions are more than a mere distraction, it is almost impossible to get acceptable results across platforms and pdf viewers. Most viewers under linux will either not show transitions at all or show them in such an ugly way that your audience may leave in disgust. If something like this doesn't work, newbies will of course assume that it's the module's fault, while in reality, it's the implementation of the pdf viewer. Instead of having inconsistent and potentially unsatisfying results, I prefer to leave these transitions to outside tools. And a tiny bit of anecdotal evidence: I had been using a "cube" transition for a while in my classroom lectures. I thought it was cool. And then, one day, I was standing somewhere in the back of the classroom while I was changing slides with my remote control, and I saw the effect for the first time from the audience's point of view. The slide pretty much fills up the front wall of the classroom, and watching the cube turn was absolutely nauseating; I was surprised that none of the students had ever complained (or thrown up...). It was horrible, and I have given up all transitions ever since... Thomas
On 7-12-2011 09:29, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
Glad you found a solution. Maybe just a word explaining why I find it a waste of time to do work on such transitions in simpleslides: even if we
Page transitions have always been part of context pdf support (not that I ever use them as I dislike them too much): \setuppagetransitions[random] No coding needed as it's a viewer control feature. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Thomas, Nauseating is an apt description ;). In general, I too avoid them, but with this upcoming audience, unadorned may be mistaken (incorrectly) for plain. I do think, however, that `dissolve' is subtle enough to offer a reasonable compromise. BTW, is there a way of doing incremental slides with the simpleslides module like the overlay feature from prosper? Or is that easily achieved in some other way that is native to ConTeXt? Thanks and regards. On 11-12-07 03:29 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
On 12/06/2011 11:40 PM, Pavneet Arora wrote:
Thanks Wolfgang and Marco for the quick responses. Marco, `impressive' looks just the thing that will easily allow me to add transitions while still using simpleslides to get me going until I can do my own DIY slides.
Regards.
Glad you found a solution. Maybe just a word explaining why I find it a waste of time to do work on such transitions in simpleslides: even if we accept, for the sake of the argument, that such transitions are more than a mere distraction, it is almost impossible to get acceptable results across platforms and pdf viewers. Most viewers under linux will either not show transitions at all or show them in such an ugly way that your audience may leave in disgust. If something like this doesn't work, newbies will of course assume that it's the module's fault, while in reality, it's the implementation of the pdf viewer. Instead of having inconsistent and potentially unsatisfying results, I prefer to leave these transitions to outside tools.
And a tiny bit of anecdotal evidence: I had been using a "cube" transition for a while in my classroom lectures. I thought it was cool. And then, one day, I was standing somewhere in the back of the classroom while I was changing slides with my remote control, and I saw the effect for the first time from the audience's point of view. The slide pretty much fills up the front wall of the classroom, and watching the cube turn was absolutely nauseating; I was surprised that none of the students had ever complained (or thrown up...). It was horrible, and I have given up all transitions ever since...
Thomas
-- ----- - Pavneet Arora Waroc Fine Audio + Custom Home Cinema www.waroc.com 416.937.WAROC (9276)
On 7-12-2011 12:44, Pavneet Arora wrote:
Dear Thomas,
Nauseating is an apt description ;). In general, I too avoid them, but with this upcoming audience, unadorned may be mistaken (incorrectly) for plain. I do think, however, that `dissolve' is subtle enough to offer a reasonable compromise.
BTW, is there a way of doing incremental slides with the simpleslides module like the overlay feature from prosper? Or is that easily achieved in some other way that is native to ConTeXt?
context s-pre-61 will give you an example (the magic word is Steps .. non intrusive and efficient stepping) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks Hans. Will do. Steps sounds perfect for this and my other applications. Regards. -- Sent from my Nokia N900. Please excuse my brevity. ----- Original message -----
On 7-12-2011 12:44, Pavneet Arora wrote:
Dear Thomas,
Nauseating is an apt description ;). In general, I too avoid them, but with this upcoming audience, unadorned may be mistaken (incorrectly) for plain. I do think, however, that `dissolve' is subtle enough to offer a reasonable compromise.
BTW, is there a way of doing incremental slides with the simpleslides module like the overlay feature from prosper? Or is that easily achieved in some other way that is native to ConTeXt?
context s-pre-61
will give you an example (the magic word is Steps .. non intrusive and efficient stepping)
Hans
----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
BTW, I am using evince under Ubuntu and haven't noticed too many inconsistencies, but then I don't normally use transitions, but do use incremental slides a lot, which I understand are also only pertinent with PDFs: from p. 4 of the prosper manual in the section for Overlays, ``All those macros are only really meaningful in pdf mode; in ps mode, they do nothing or interpret their argument, depending on the option no/accumulate.'' On 11-12-07 03:29 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
On 12/06/2011 11:40 PM, Pavneet Arora wrote:
Thanks Wolfgang and Marco for the quick responses. Marco, `impressive' looks just the thing that will easily allow me to add transitions while still using simpleslides to get me going until I can do my own DIY slides.
Regards.
Glad you found a solution. Maybe just a word explaining why I find it a waste of time to do work on such transitions in simpleslides: even if we accept, for the sake of the argument, that such transitions are more than a mere distraction, it is almost impossible to get acceptable results across platforms and pdf viewers. Most viewers under linux will either not show transitions at all or show them in such an ugly way that your audience may leave in disgust. If something like this doesn't work, newbies will of course assume that it's the module's fault, while in reality, it's the implementation of the pdf viewer. Instead of having inconsistent and potentially unsatisfying results, I prefer to leave these transitions to outside tools.
And a tiny bit of anecdotal evidence: I had been using a "cube" transition for a while in my classroom lectures. I thought it was cool. And then, one day, I was standing somewhere in the back of the classroom while I was changing slides with my remote control, and I saw the effect for the first time from the audience's point of view. The slide pretty much fills up the front wall of the classroom, and watching the cube turn was absolutely nauseating; I was surprised that none of the students had ever complained (or thrown up...). It was horrible, and I have given up all transitions ever since...
Thomas
-- ----- - Pavneet Arora Waroc Fine Audio + Custom Home Cinema www.waroc.com 416.937.WAROC (9276)
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