Hello, thanks for your feedback. Again, I don't want to impose or dismiss anything. I wanted to share this because I believed somebody else in the ConTeXt community could be interested. @Taco: Actually, I stumbled upon the nice ConTeXt group logo recently and was wondering who made it. To answer your questions: I tried to avoid any logic or rainbow-type color sequence to create something more unique. The first square had to be in blue and the middle area in a warm color. (I played around a lot with the color combinations.) Regarding the outside circle: I tried different variations, with and without a surrounding circle or round background, with and without rounded squares, and was most pleased with this solution. It's true, "clean and simple" can easily lead to "too informal". @Clyde J: Valid point. I use the logotype with the subscript 'E' whenever I can in inline text. @Floris vM: Font, spacing, overall appealingness. No Helvetica/Nimbus Sans, which has less meaning to me for ConTeXt than a DIN-ish/technical one. Colors are fun. If you don't see it this way, it's perfectly fine. @Alan B: I've uploaded MetaPost files of the main version. Yes, the horizontal version is not very exciting nor very TeX-aware. I made this one primarily because I wanted something small for a little GUI script. Now I think it's just superfluous. Greetings! Paul
@Floris vM: Font, spacing, overall appealingness. No Helvetica/Nimbus Sans, which has less meaning to me for ConTeXt than a DIN-ish/technical one. Colors are fun.
Could you elaborate on how ‘fun’ in colors is defined? I see no coherency in the color palet.
If you don’t see it this way, it’s perfectly fine.
Apparently i see different ;-) How about a one color logo without any text? .F
If TeX and Context are about typesetting beautiful readable typography, the logos as presented do not reflect that thought per se. At first glance is is a pile of incoherent letters and colours. e.g. difficult to read and memorise. .F
Hi, While this discussion is going on, it is still the case that Paul’s new unofficial logo is better than the old green one, so I did in fact replace the wiki logo. It will stay up until someone comes up with a proposal with a higher level of consensus. Thanks Paul! Taco PS I tried replacing the favicon as well, but the image does not want to scale down that much, so the favicon is still Patrick’s tulips.
On 30 Jan 2019, at 10:15, Floris van Manen
wrote: If TeX and Context are about typesetting beautiful readable typography, the logos as presented do not reflect that thought per se. At first glance is is a pile of incoherent letters and colours. e.g. difficult to read and memorise.
Hi, Just a quick note on logo design: The ConTeXt logo could just as well be a set of tulips or some (TeX-styled) lion or a dutch cow or a windmill or some variation off the Pragma-ADE logo (see pragma-ade.com). There is no real need to display the letters “context”. In fact, having a pictograph instead of / along with textual content is probably a good idea. For use in actual text we already have \CONTEXT. My 2c, Taco
On 1/30/2019 10:31 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Hi,
Just a quick note on logo design:
The ConTeXt logo could just as well be a set of tulips or some (TeX-styled) lion or a dutch cow or a windmill or some variation off the Pragma-ADE logo (see pragma-ade.com). There is no real need to display the letters “context”.
In fact, having a pictograph instead of / along with textual content is probably a good idea.
For use in actual text we already have \CONTEXT.
My 2c, ok, let me add 1c ... since 2011 in the distribution there is always a file context-version.[pdf|png] which is a colorful representation of the current context version (date and time) ... probably no one ever noticed it (at some point i dropped the icon file)
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On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 04:02:32PM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
ok, let me add 1c ... since 2011 in the distribution there is always a file context-version.[pdf|png] which is a colorful representation of the current context version (date and time) ... probably no one ever noticed it
I did! I did! :-) Arthur
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 10:15 AM Floris van Manen
If TeX and Context are about typesetting beautiful readable typography, the logos as presented do not reflect that thought per se. At first glance is is a pile of incoherent letters and colours. e.g. difficult to read and memorise.
perhaps a gradient on background can suggest the right orientation of reading. -- luigi
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 10:15 AM Floris van Manen
wrote: If TeX and Context are about typesetting beautiful readable typography, the logos as presented do not reflect that thought per se. At first glance is is a pile of incoherent letters and colours. e.g. difficult to read and memorise. perhaps a gradient on background can suggest the right orientation of reading.
Making things complex is easy. The challenge remains to find a simple solution.
In fact, having a pictograph instead of / along with textual content is probably a good idea.
I do agree ;-) Here’s an attempt the blend the lines in plain monochrome … The latter having a naive reference to the typical TeX letter dropping e.g. always room for improvement ;-) .F
Am 2019-01-30 um 11:09 schrieb Floris van Manen
In fact, having a pictograph instead of / along with textual content is probably a good idea.
I do agree ;-)
Here’s an attempt the blend the lines in plain monochrome … The latter having a naive reference to the typical TeX letter dropping
I like this. There could even be an animated version that links the twi versions (and would work in (Lua)iTeX, of course). Greetlings, Hraban --- https://www.fiee.net http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de GPG Key ID 1C9B22FD
Hello,
thanks Paul for the nice job! The colorful hexa-shaped logo seems much prettier.
One point/suggestion - if the letters "TEX" shared the same background - be it e.g. light gray - it might be cleaner how to read ("discover") the word "ConTeXt"; it would also keep the hexagonal shape, associating chemistry; and it would also indicate or highlight relation to "TeX".
But keep my notion or feeling just personal; the new logo is "nice enough" as published on wiki.
Best regards,
Lukas
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:58:40 +0100, Paul Schalck
Hello,
thanks for your feedback. Again, I don't want to impose or dismiss anything. I wanted to share this because I believed somebody else in the ConTeXt community could be interested.
@Taco: Actually, I stumbled upon the nice ConTeXt group logo recently and was wondering who made it. To answer your questions: I tried to avoid any logic or rainbow-type color sequence to create something more unique. The first square had to be in blue and the middle area in a warm color. (I played around a lot with the color combinations.) Regarding the outside circle: I tried different variations, with and without a surrounding circle or round background, with and without rounded squares, and was most pleased with this solution. It's true, "clean and simple" can easily lead to "too informal".
@Clyde J: Valid point. I use the logotype with the subscript 'E' whenever I can in inline text.
@Floris vM: Font, spacing, overall appealingness. No Helvetica/Nimbus Sans, which has less meaning to me for ConTeXt than a DIN-ish/technical one. Colors are fun. If you don't see it this way, it's perfectly fine.
@Alan B: I've uploaded MetaPost files of the main version.
Yes, the horizontal version is not very exciting nor very TeX-aware. I made this one primarily because I wanted something small for a little GUI script. Now I think it's just superfluous.
Greetings!
Paul
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:58:40 +0100
"Paul Schalck"
@Alan B: I've uploaded MetaPost files of the main version.
MP produced using pstoedit is of little interest; it is not the same as generating a graphic naively using MetaPost. Also, writing good MP code is a simple and fun exercise and displays the intentions behind any design. ;-) Alan
participants (9)
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Alan Braslau
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Arthur Reutenauer
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Floris van Manen
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Hans Hagen
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Henning Hraban Ramm
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luigi scarso
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Paul Schalck
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Procházka Lukáš Ing.
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Taco Hoekwater