Hello list members, an only-a-few-days-fan of Context writes to you for the first time. I'm pleased to have found a program closer to TeX and younger than LaTeX. In the last years I used LaTeX for a bigger family project with good success, but experienced some difficulties in arranging minipages containing changing text and pictures especially in series letters. So I'm trying to do that using Context. Of course I cannot change hundreds of files from LaTeX to Context, but newer tasks I'd like to do in Context. There is a first question I have concerning Fraktur fonts which I'd like to use typesetting a poem: I found a 2-mail-discussion in your 2002-archiv concerning those fonts. But I have to admit that I don't understand what is written there. So, I tried simply \definefont[Gedichtfont][Fraktur] \Gedichtfont{... poem ...} both with "context" and "texexec", but I don't achieve the desired result. "texexec" displays a font somehow similar to Fraktur, but not a very nice one and much to broad; and it seems to have no different "s" (one inner-word and one word-end or syllable-end "s") as needed in Fraktur. And, my "texexec" doesn't know anything about umlauts and sharp s. Whereas my "context" (translating the same program), dosn't know Fraktur, but knows umlauts. So I'm always using both of them, enjoying the partial success of both, though I read somewhere, it should be better using "texexec". Well, a very nice Fraktur font is Yannis Haralambous' "yfrak" in his "yfont" series, the nicest one I've found until now. Could you please help me to formulate the correct commands to use a "nice" Fraktur font, be it "yfrak" or another one? But please remember, Context is still rather confusing to me. So, it should be simple enough. Best regards, Ruhmwolf
Hello list members,
an only-a-few-days-fan of Context writes to you for the first time. I'm pleased to have found a program closer to TeX and younger than LaTeX. In the last years I used LaTeX for a bigger family project with good success, but experienced some difficulties in arranging minipages containing changing text and pictures especially in series letters. So I'm trying to do that using Context. Of course I cannot change hundreds of files from LaTeX to Context, but newer tasks I'd like to do in Context.
There is a first question I have concerning Fraktur fonts which I'd like to use typesetting a poem:
I found a 2-mail-discussion in your 2002-archiv concerning those fonts. But I have to admit that I don't understand what is written there. So, I tried simply
\definefont[Gedichtfont][Fraktur] \Gedichtfont{... poem ...}
both with "context" and "texexec", but I don't achieve the desired result. "texexec" displays a font somehow similar to Fraktur, but not a very nice one and much to broad; and it seems to have no different "s" (one inner-word and one word-end or syllable-end "s") as needed in Fraktur. And, my "texexec" doesn't know anything about umlauts and sharp s. Whereas my "context" (translating the same program), dosn't know Fraktur, but knows umlauts. So I'm always using both of them, enjoying the partial success of both, though I read somewhere, it should be better using "texexec".
Well, a very nice Fraktur font is Yannis Haralambous' "yfrak" in his "yfont" series, the nicest one I've found until now.
Could you please help me to formulate the correct commands to use a "nice" Fraktur font, be it "yfrak" or another one? But please remember, Context is still rather confusing to me. So, it should be simple enough.
Best regards, Ruhmwolf
Thinking to latex: etex+latex format = latex
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Rudolf Bahr
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:28:12AM +0200, Rudolf Bahr wrote:
both with "context" and "texexec", but I don't achieve the desired result. "texexec" displays a font somehow similar to Fraktur, but not a very nice one and much to broad; and it seems to have no different "s" (one inner-word and one word-end or syllable-end "s") as needed in Fraktur. And, my "texexec" doesn't know anything about umlauts and sharp s. Whereas my "context" (translating the same program), dosn't know Fraktur, but knows umlauts.
For "context" (ConTeXt MkIV), you may want to try an OpenType Fraktur font, like: http://unifraktur.sourceforge.net/ The long s versus rounded s distinction is a text input issue, you have to inter the correct s according the position in the word (the rules are complex, different from a country to country and from a period to another). Regards, Khaled
On 6/13/2013 9:36 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:28:12AM +0200, Rudolf Bahr wrote:
both with "context" and "texexec", but I don't achieve the desired result. "texexec" displays a font somehow similar to Fraktur, but not a very nice one and much to broad; and it seems to have no different "s" (one inner-word and one word-end or syllable-end "s") as needed in Fraktur. And, my "texexec" doesn't know anything about umlauts and sharp s. Whereas my "context" (translating the same program), dosn't know Fraktur, but knows umlauts.
For "context" (ConTeXt MkIV), you may want to try an OpenType Fraktur font, like: http://unifraktur.sourceforge.net/
The long s versus rounded s distinction is a text input issue, you have to inter the correct s according the position in the word (the rules are complex, different from a country to country and from a period to another).
these fonts look quite ok .. i can even read the samples Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Luigi, Khaled and Hans, I have to apologize to you for not having written up to now. I simply didn't see your answers. Today, a young woman from the environment of Dante e.V. pointed me to here. She gave me some good advice to the topic too. Thanks a lot to you, now I have to digest your answers first. Regards, Rudolf
On 21/06/13 18:53, Rudolf Bahr wrote:
Hello Luigi, Khaled and Hans,
I have to apologize to you for not having written up to now. I simply didn't see your answers. Today, a young woman from the environment of Dante e.V. pointed me to here. She gave me some good advice to the topic too.
Thanks a lot to you, now I have to digest your answers first.
Hi Rudolf, using UnifrakturMaguntia (from http://unifraktur.sf.net), here is a small sample: \mainlanguage[deo] \definefontfeature[default][default]% [script=latn,ss06=yes,cv01=yes,ss01=yes,ss03=yes] \usemodule[simplefonts] \setmainfont[UnifrakturMaguntia] \starttext \startlines Habe nun, ach! Philosophie, Juristerey und Medicin, Und leider auch Theologie! Durchaus studirt, mit heißem Bemühn. Da steh’ ich nun, ich armer Thor! \stoplines \stoptext I think that it's easier to use the simplefonts module than the standard ConTeXt method. I guess one of the advantages of simplefonts is to invoke font by OS name. I must admit I'm biased here: I don't actually know how to use the standard ConTeXt font system :-). Just in case they were needed (sorry if they aren't), two tips: \setmainfont sets the font for the whole document. If you want only to use it in a passage or from a given point \definesimplefonttypeface[UnifratkturMaguncia] or \definesimplefont[UnifrakturMaguncia]. OpenType features are enabled for the whole document with \definefontfeature and they are enabled or disabled using the four-character tag equals to yes or no. I hope is clear. Don't hesitate to ask, if anything isn't. I hope it might help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk
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