Re: [NTG-context] Place footnote after reference
Hi,
But I admit that I do not understand the problem all that well. I have never run into a situation where I want the footnote to explicitly *not* appear with its reference (except in endnotes). If my grid settings were that specific, I would be using endnotes anyway.
I have this problem everywhere in a 400-page project with hundrets of footnotes and no special grid settings at all. How would you solve this situation (my minexamle): \showgrid \starttext \input tufte \input tufte \footnote{Footnote 1} \input tufte \input tufte \dorecurse{35}{Blub or what }\footnote{Footnote 2} \input tufte \stoptext The problem is, that Context (or Tex) skips lines, which is poor typesetting, too many even than necessary in some cases, and that is not suitable. Endnotes are no solutions aswell, I need footnotes. So the solution to have reference and footnote not on the same page seems the least bad workaround, if possible at all. Thanks Huseyin -- Huseyin Özoguz E-Mail: h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de
On 7/22/2019 12:34, Huseyin Özoguz wrote:
Hi,
But I admit that I do not understand the problem all that well. I have never run into a situation where I want the footnote to explicitly *not* appear with its reference (except in endnotes). If my grid settings were that specific, I would be using endnotes anyway.
I have this problem everywhere in a 400-page project with hundrets of footnotes and no special grid settings at all. How would you solve this situation (my minexamle):
\showgrid \starttext \input tufte \input tufte \footnote{Footnote 1} \input tufte \input tufte \dorecurse{35}{Blub or what }\footnote{Footnote 2} \input tufte \stoptext
The problem is, that Context (or Tex) skips lines, which is poor typesetting, too many even than necessary in some cases, and that is not suitable. Endnotes are no solutions aswell, I need footnotes. So the solution to have reference and footnote not on the same page seems the least bad workaround, if possible at all.
Thanks Huseyin
-- Huseyin Özoguz
E-Mail:h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de
Have you tried \setupnote[footnote][before={\blank[none]}] ? -- Rik
On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 18:34:34 +0200
Huseyin Özoguz
The problem is, that Context (or Tex) skips lines, which is poor typesetting, too many even than necessary in some cases, and that is not suitable. Endnotes are no solutions aswell, I need footnotes. So the solution to have reference and footnote not on the same page seems the least bad workaround, if possible at all.
So why not place footnotes in a (sufficiently large) reserved bottom space? The typeset text area would then be uniform across all pages and notes would appear where needed. Alan
So why not place footnotes in a (sufficiently large) reserved bottom space? The typeset text area would then be uniform across all pages and notes would appear where needed.
Would be possibe in some cases, but not in mine: I have many small footnones, only a few words, and some very long with several lines. With your solution I would waste 50%+ of the area or - as an alternative - I had to split the long footnotes across several pages and their footnote-areas. Actually that might be an interesting workaround ... I will try it, but it would cost still a lot of space and pages. Huseyin Huseyin Özoguz E-Mail: h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de Am 22.07.2019 um 19:14 schrieb Alan Braslau:
On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 18:34:34 +0200 Huseyin Özoguz
wrote: The problem is, that Context (or Tex) skips lines, which is poor typesetting, too many even than necessary in some cases, and that is not suitable. Endnotes are no solutions aswell, I need footnotes. So the solution to have reference and footnote not on the same page seems the least bad workaround, if possible at all. So why not place footnotes in a (sufficiently large) reserved bottom space? The typeset text area would then be uniform across all pages and notes would appear where needed.
Alan
Hi,
On 22 Jul 2019, at 18:34, Huseyin Özoguz
wrote: The problem is, that Context (or Tex) skips lines, which is poor typesetting, too many even than necessary in some cases, and that is not suitable.
ConTeXt does not skip too much in this example, it the second footnote will just not fit with the (default) parameter set ConTeXt is using. If the footnote 2 would be on the first page, that is an extra line for the reference line, and an extra line for the actual note. There is an implicit \blank before the footnote rule, and that is a third ‘line’. Since there only is 2 lines (and a bit) of space available, it will not fit. Disable the default \blank with: \setupnote[footnote][before=] and both notes will fit on the first page. Best wishes, Taco
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Alan Braslau
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Huseyin Özoguz
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Rik Kabel
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Taco Hoekwater