Am 22.04.2012 um 09:33 schrieb S Barmeier:

On 04/22/2012 04:16 PM, Yue Wang wrote:

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Dear powerful ConTeXt users:

Is there some way to do tufte style side notes? I googled and did found Wolfgang's solution

(http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20110906.202722.f501f115.en.html)

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but it's just too simple and cannot be used for production. Side notes will cluttered or fall out of pages.

LaTeX does provide a good solution for this style. I am wondering if this is possible to do in context.

I am also curious to know simple way to do multiple float style in ConTeXt (like graphics spanning text and margin and many others).

Yue Wang

Well, I am no powerful ConTeXt user, but \inmargin and derivatives (\inouter \ininner \inright \inleft) have an option stack=yes to avoid overlapping and stack=continue to avoid ... overlapping. As I understand it, the former is for shorter margin notes, the latter for use with paragraph-sized notes.

There is also \startmarginblock ... \stopmarginblock and it exceed my ConTeXt user powers to be able to tell you the difference. My guess is, that this type of margin note is a block, which maybe enjoys features of textblocks...? But I, too, would be interested to understand the difference in any detail.

I also use margin notes extensively (or at least hope the final version of my document will be able to), but as of now, there seems to be no way to float margin notes to the top/bottom of the page and no way to prevent longer notes, attached to a line near the bottom of a page, to exceed the margin and be typeset even beyond the page boundaries... (Forgive me, if I'm wrong).

All of the mechanisms are added at different times in the process to make from text a page. Margindata (\inmargin etc.) is added to the line where you have it in your and doesn’t move from this position but you prevent overlapping of two different texts in the line with “stack=yes”. Marginblocks are added after ConTeXt has finished the entire page. As you can see in the example below it’s possible to have text at different levels on the same position. \setupmarginblock[color=green] \setupnote [footnote][location=none] \setupnotation[footnote][color=blue] \setuptexttexts [margin] [] [{\framed[frame=off,height=\textheight,width=broad,offset=none,align=high]{\placenotes[footnote][before=]}}] \starttext \inright[color=red]{Paragraph 1} \input knuth\footnote{Footnote 1} \startmarginblock \input ward \stopmarginblock \inright[color=red]{Paragraph 2} \input knuth \stoptext Wolfgang

Am 22.04.2012 um 11:55 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:

Thank you for the example, I need the same, and my setup worked some months before, but ConTeXt (latest beta) seems broken in that regard:

- footnotes appear doubled in margin and in footer, even with "location=none" in both setups

I noticed this and this does also happen with \endnotes etc.

- numbering is by document (at least not by page, if I setup "way=bypage")

Did you use \setupnotation to change the counter setting? \setupnotation[footnote][way=bypage] \starttext \dorecurse{10}{\input knuth\footnote{Footnote \recurselevel}\par} \stoptext Wolfgang

There are many styles available on the context-garden site (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Sample_documents) which are really helpful to help newcomers to learn how to define styles in context. Wouldn't it be great to add tufte's and bringhurst's as extra examples? On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Am 22.04.2012 um 09:33 schrieb S Barmeier:

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On 04/22/2012 04:16 PM, Yue Wang wrote:

...

Dear powerful ConTeXt users:

Is there some way to do tufte style side notes? I googled and did found Wolfgang's solution

(http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20110906.202722.f501f115.en.html)

...

but it's just too simple and cannot be used for production. Side notes will cluttered or fall out of pages.

LaTeX does provide a good solution for this style. I am wondering if this is possible to do in context.

I am also curious to know simple way to do multiple float style in ConTeXt (like graphics spanning text and margin and many others).

Yue Wang

Well, I am no powerful ConTeXt user, but \inmargin and derivatives (\inouter \ininner \inright \inleft) have an option stack=yes to avoid overlapping and stack=continue to avoid ... overlapping. As I understand it, the former is for shorter margin notes, the latter for use with paragraph-sized notes.

There is also \startmarginblock ... \stopmarginblock and it exceed my ConTeXt user powers to be able to tell you the difference. My guess is, that this type of margin note is a block, which maybe enjoys features of textblocks...? But I, too, would be interested to understand the difference in any detail.

I also use margin notes extensively (or at least hope the final version of my document will be able to), but as of now, there seems to be no way to float margin notes to the top/bottom of the page and no way to prevent longer notes, attached to a line near the bottom of a page, to exceed the margin and be typeset even beyond the page boundaries... (Forgive me, if I'm wrong).

All of the mechanisms are added at different times in the process to make from text a page.

Margindata (\inmargin etc.) is added to the line where you have it in your and doesn’t move from this position but you prevent overlapping of two different texts in the line with “stack=yes”.

Marginblocks are added after ConTeXt has finished the entire page.

As you can see in the example below it’s possible to have text at different levels on the same position.

\setupmarginblock[color=green]

\setupnote    [footnote][location=none] \setupnotation[footnote][color=blue]

\setuptexttexts  [margin]  []  [{\framed[frame=off,height=\textheight,width=broad,offset=none,align=high]{\placenotes[footnote][before=]}}]

\starttext

\inright[color=red]{Paragraph 1}

\input knuth\footnote{Footnote 1}

\startmarginblock \input ward \stopmarginblock

\inright[color=red]{Paragraph 2}

\input knuth

\stoptext

Wolfgang