Thanks. I'll try that. But, iirc, these had some other drawbacks.... I'll check if it works for my use case. Is there a way to have blanks in the tabulate? Denis ________________________________________ Von: ntg-context im Auftrag von Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context Gesendet: Freitag, 26. August 2022 23:26:56 An: Denis Maier via ntg-context Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas via tabulate Am 26.08.22 um 22:00 schrieb Denis Maier via ntg-context:

Hi,

I need to typeset two poems side by side. Usually, I use the tabulate environment for typesetting parallel texts. However, for poems this does not quite work as tabulate does not seem to allow blanks between the stanzas. See MWE below. Am I missing someting? Is there a better way to achieve this?

How about columnsets or paragraphs? \definecolumnset[Zwei][n=2] \startcolumnset[Zwei] \startlines Starlight, star bright, first star I see tonight; \stoplines \column \startlines I wish I may, I wish I might have the wish I wish tonight. \stoplines \stopcolumnset \defineparagraphs[Zwei][n=2] \setupparagraphs[Zwei][1][ width=.45\textwidth, distance=2em, align={verytolerant,stretch}] % width of 2nd column is calculated automatically \startZwei ... \nextZwei ... \stopZwei Hraban ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________

Thanks, Wolfgang. That gives me a blank between the verses. However the blank is rather huge and I don't see how I could make it smaller? Is it possible to do this? Denis

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Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 27.08.2022 um 09:17:

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Thanks. I'll try that. But, iirc, these had some other drawbacks.... I'll check if it works for my use case.

Is there a way to have blanks in the tabulate?

\startlines[inbetween={\dontleavehmode\crlf}] ...

Wolfgang

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Thanks Hans, that's very nice indeed. Looks like I really need to dive into CLD. There seem to be so many possibilies... However, the major pitfall seems to be that this assumes stanzas of equal length (as it relies on \TB to produce the blanks), which does not apply to my situation. (Modfied version attached.) Do you see any way to support this kind of situation? Best, Denis

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On 8/27/2022 11:25 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:

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Thanks, Wolfgang. That gives me a blank between the verses. However the blank is rather huge and I don't see how I could make it smaller? Is it possible to do this? morning exercise attached (you can run the file)

Hans

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Hans Hagen Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. August 2022 10:41 An: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Parallel texts: verse with blanks between stanzas via tabulate

On 8/27/2022 11:25 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:

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Thanks, Wolfgang. That gives me a blank between the verses. However the blank is rather huge and I don't see how I could make it smaller? Is it possible to do this? morning exercise attached (you can run the file)

Hans

Another, more general question on this: why is the function poetry.sidebyside defined twice? If I understand correctly, depending on the input one or the other will be used, but I don't see where that happens...

On 8/29/2022 1:31 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: the first can be commented as it is the first simple variant Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On 8/30/2022 1:40 PM, denis.maier@unibe.ch wrote:

Thanks for the updated version. So, that means the basic restriction is that blanks will need to be inserted between rows, right? We cannot have to two completely independent formatted poems, right? (For reference, see the attached PNG. This was done with paragraphs, and works as longs as this stays on a single page. One is one long stanza, the other one consists of multiple smaller stanzas.) You need to be more prececise in defining what you want .. this example is not a parallel obe right? Just two columns.

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Am 26.08.22 um 22:00 schrieb Denis Maier via ntg-context:

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Hi,

I need to typeset two poems side by side. Usually, I use the tabulate environment for typesetting parallel texts. However, for poems this does not quite work as tabulate does not seem to allow blanks between the stanzas. See MWE below. Am I missing someting? Is there a better way to achieve this?

How about columnsets or paragraphs?

\definecolumnset[Zwei][n=2] \startcolumnset[Zwei] \startlines Starlight, star bright, first star I see tonight; \stoplines \column \startlines I wish I may, I wish I might have the wish I wish tonight. \stoplines \stopcolumnset

\defineparagraphs[Zwei][n=2] \setupparagraphs[Zwei][1][ width=.45\textwidth, distance=2em, align={verytolerant,stretch}] % width of 2nd column is calculated automatically

\startZwei ... \nextZwei ... \stopZwei

Ok, I've had a chance to look into this. Maybe I'm missing something, but paragraphs cannot be split across pages. Is that correct? That's a bit of a problem. As for columnsets, they seem to change the output routine for the entire page. Also not ideal in this case. Denis