Dear All, among advertised advantages of TeX there used to be "optical scaling", when text in the same font but in different sizes has different shapes of glyphs. That used to be the feature of metafont fonts and derived PostScript ones (like cm-super). But it seems now, with TeX Gyre becoming the default free fonts set, it seems the idea is dropped. Is it really so or one just needs some commercial OpenType font family to use it (Adobe Opticals)? Sincerely, Michail
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Michail Vidiassov wrote:
Dear All,
among advertised advantages of TeX there used to be "optical scaling", when text in the same font but in different sizes has different shapes of glyphs. That used to be the feature of metafont fonts and derived PostScript ones (like cm-super).
That mostly means: - TeX supports optical scaling - the default font inscludes optical sizes
But it seems now, with TeX Gyre becoming the default free fonts set, it seems the idea is dropped.
It's not about dropping the idea, but about too much work that needs to be invested into adapting some font for different optical sizes.
Is it really so or one just needs some commercial OpenType font family to use it (Adobe Opticals)?
If free fonts don't satisfy your needs ... then yes. Another option is funding development of free fonts :) :) :) Mojca
Hi,
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:30:33 -0700, Michail Vidiassov
among advertised advantages of TeX there used to be "optical scaling",
It still is
when text in the same font but in different sizes has different shapes of glyphs. That used to be the feature of metafont fonts and derived PostScript ones (like cm-super).
Or Latin Modern, also derived from the meta sources.
But it seems now, with TeX Gyre becoming the default free fonts set, it seems the idea is dropped.
LM is default, and is fully optically scaled
Is it really so or one just needs some commercial OpenType font family to use it (Adobe Opticals)?
TeX/ConTeXt supports optical fonts, such fonts (=LM) are still the default, and you can plug any commercially available set like Minion Optical Pro into the system. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523
Dear All, On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
That used to be the feature of metafont fonts and derived PostScript ones (like cm-super).
Or Latin Modern, also derived from the meta sources.
But it seems now, with TeX Gyre becoming the default free fonts set, it seems the idea is dropped.
LM is default, and is fully optically scaled
But lacks cyrillic. Is there any mkiv-style support for cm-super? Sincerely, Michail
Am 03.12.2008 um 20:34 schrieb Michail Vidiassov:
Dear All,
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
That used to be the feature of metafont fonts and derived PostScript ones (like cm-super).
Or Latin Modern, also derived from the meta sources.
But it seems now, with TeX Gyre becoming the default free fonts set, it seems the idea is dropped.
LM is default, and is fully optically scaled
But lacks cyrillic.
And it's not planned to add it, here is a quote from the EuroTeX 2005 preprints: Although the LM glyph repertoire is already fairly rich, it can and should be extended further: the next step will be perhaps the addition of glyphs specific for African Latin-based alphabets. It is not within the scope of the project, however, to include Cyrillic and Greek alphabets.
Is there any mkiv-style support for cm-super?
You should take a look at the computer modern unicode¹ fonts. I wrote a typescript for the basic styles and a short test file but optical sizes are missing. ¹http://canopus.iacp.dvo.ru/%7Epanov/cm-unicode/ Wolfgang
Martin Schröder wrote:
2008/12/3 Michail Vidiassov
: LM is default, and is fully optically scaled But lacks cyrillic.
Well, the L in LM stands for "Latin" :-)
indeed also, there has been discussions about cyrillic in gyre but somehow we cannot get cyrillic users organized in a way that they can do quality assurance etc etc. maybe the context cyrillic users can organized themselves in a group who is willing to help getting it done in lm and gyre Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
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Hans Hagen
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Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
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Martin Schröder
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Michail Vidiassov
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Mojca Miklavec
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Wolfgang Schuster