On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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(Maybe we should add --cvs-exclude rule to rsync to prevent deleting kpathsea files and formats.)

hm, but formats are regenerated anyway so why bother

It depends on user. Format generation takes quite some time. When there is no ConTeXt version or binary update, I usually don't regenerate formats at all. (There can be a module update or no update at all, so I have --make switched off.) Mojca

Mojca, Thanks so much for your help. When all of this gets sorted out, we need to update the wiki! d) I think that it does make sense for --delete to be a default option, yielding a clean "minimal" installation. c) I also think that the --extras=list,of,modules is a fine syntax, as this is intended to include extra modules on top of the minimal installation. (Your suggestion of "--modules=" might be confusing, as many modules, such as "bib" or "chemic" to name two that I use, appear to indeed be included as standard in the minimal installation.) I tried "./first-setup.sh --extras=lettrine,tikz", however, this seems to be broken: the extra modules were not downloaded. I then tried "--extras=all" and now have a "non-minimal minimal" installation with which I'm happy. There appears, however, to be a bug in mtx-update.lua... but I haven't learned enough yet about its syntax in order to find the error. Sorry! a) I don't like the idea of modifying first-setup.sh, as problem would be that of maintenance as my local version might risk to miss important modifications made to this file. My preference is therefore to have locally a simple shell script (update.sh): rsync -ptv rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh . ./first-setup.sh --extras=all or whatever be ones personal preferences. b) texmf-local is good for other files that have not yet made it into the contextgarden (or that will probably not be included). One example of this is pgfplots. Finally, documentation is sorely missing. Of course the wiki will need to be updated. I hesitate always to do this until I feel that I really understand what is going on. I would also like to see a --help option (to be parsed by mtx-update.lua). Alan On Sunday 07 December 2008 16:55:00 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

Hello Alan,

(I'm replying to the mailing list since it's a relatively important issue.)

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

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However, I also discovered that first-setup.sh removes the extra modules

It's not first-setup.sh, but mtx-update.lua that does that since a few days. --delete switch was disfunctional until then, so Hans fixed it in the way that makes --delete the default option.

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that I downloaded. I therefore created a local script (update.sh). I would post this to the context wiki, but I am not sure that this is indeed the correct way of doing things.

The correct way of doing things (either is fine): a) just modify first-setup.sh to include additional --keep switch b) put your local modifications to texmf-local c) use --extras=list,of,modules (I would like to convince Hans to rename that into --modules=) d) I'm still not sure whether --delete switch as the default option makes sense or not (in any case, some patches are needed to show which files will be removed at least).

Mojca

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Mojca Miklavec

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Hello,

This is a rather important notice for users of ConTeXt minimals. You might want to add --keep to ./first-setup.sh

There are some options for which I'm not sure if they should be enabled by default or not. The script (mtx-update.lua and consequently the simplistic ./first-setup.sh script) provides two switches: --keep and --delete. The --delete switch deletes all the files that are not part of distribution. The --keep switch doesn't care about those files (that have been remove from distribution or that you added) and leaves them where they are.

Your own files should go to texmf-local that update doesn't touch at all.

Now the important info: if you want your files to be kept, you should use the --keep switch in ./first-setup.sh. --delete has been misfunctional for a while, and maybe it should not be kept as the default option. But as it stands now, it is the default.

Recently there has been a new option added (--extras=list,of,context,modules), but I would like the option to be renamed to something more self-explanatory than --extras= (--modules= for example). You can test if fetching modules works OK, but I would like to rename the option.

Mojca

(Maybe we should add --cvs-exclude rule to rsync to prevent deleting kpathsea files and formats.)