thanks. I upload the target I wanna got in http://rhce4u.googlepages.com/yourpage%27stitle. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 01:08:05PM +0800, Yue Wang wrote:

post the result you want to have here so context developers can help you.

2009/3/11 Bill Long :

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I input pinyin above Chinese character in bellow way: ------------------------------------------- \documentclass{article} \usepackage[overlap, CJK]{ruby} \usepackage{pinyin} \usepackage{CJK} \begin{CJK*}{UTF8}{song} \begin{document} \renewcommand{\rubysep}{.3ex} \renewcommand{\rubysize}{.5}

\ruby{静}{\jing4} \ruby{夜}{\ye4}\ruby{思}{\si1}

\end{CJK*} \end{document} ------------------------------------------------

but it has poor line break,

Does contex support pinyin ? and how to implement?

Thanks.

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On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 04:26:21PM +0100, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

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\documentclass{article}

You're not using ConTeXt at all. This is LaTeX code. Which is fine, but then this list is really not the place to ask your question :-) Yes, just as I say the latex+cjk behave poor on line break, so I ask if context can do it, and do it better.

There are hyphenation patterns for pinyin that could be added to ConTeXt; it wouldn't be too much work, but you would need to specify how you would like ConTeXt to behave exactly. For that matter, the LaTeX syntax for pinyin (\ni2\hao3!) is not supported at the moment.

Arthur

Got it, then now I should try to manually do line break with latex+cjk. Thanks

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Bill Long wrote: so

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is the result of

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\ruby{静}{\jing4} \ruby{夜}{\ye4}\ruby{思}{\si1}

i.e. you want transliterations on top? is that \jing4 a convention or something specific for tex packages Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

The pinyin has 5 kind of tone for one pronunciation. As it's hard to input, and in CJK 1,2,3,4 are use to represent the tone, (the fifth is no special tone mark). In the book for children, the pinyin always show above the Chinese like the picture I upload. To make it show correctly is an good start, but if there are some tools to automatic add PinYin , it will be more attractive. In Chinese they do have the character which have multi pronunciation, but most of them only has single pronunciation, I can try to find out some dict to translate Chinese Character into PinYin if anyone can help integrate this convert tool into context. On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 06:20:34PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Am 15.03.2009 um 04:23 schrieb Bill Long:

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Dear Hans,

Can you help check if you can implement a new feature of "pinyin" input in context?

Is a lua based method a option for you?

Here is a primitive converter, not perfect and could fail but it gives you a first impression, the missing 'ǎ' in the output is a font problem.

\startluacode

function commands.convertpinyin(text,number) local replaced local number = tonumber(number) if string.find(text,"a") or string.find(text,"e") then if number==1 then text = string.gsub(text,"a","ā") text = string.gsub(text,"e","ē") elseif number==2 then text = string.gsub(text,"a","á") text = string.gsub(text,"e","é") elseif number==3 then text = string.gsub(text,"a","ǎ") text = string.gsub(text,"e","ě") elseif number==4 then text = string.gsub(text,"a","à") text = string.gsub(text,"e","è") end replaced = false else replaced = true end while replaced do if number==1 then text = string.gsub(text,"i","ī") text = string.gsub(text,"o","ō") if string.find(text,"o") then else text = string.gsub(text,"u","ū") end text = string.gsub(text,"v","ǖ") elseif number==2 then text = string.gsub(text,"i","í") text = string.gsub(text,"o","ó") if string.find(text,"o") then else text = string.gsub(text,"u","ú") end text = string.gsub(text,"v","ǘ") elseif number==3 then text = string.gsub(text,"o","ǒ") text = string.gsub(text,"i","ǐ") if string.find(text,"o") then else text = string.gsub(text,"u","ǔ") end text = string.gsub(text,"u","ǔ") text = string.gsub(text,"v","ǚ") elseif number==4 then text = string.gsub(text,"o","ò") text = string.gsub(text,"i","ì") if string.find(text,"o") then else text = string.gsub(text,"u","ù") end text = string.gsub(text,"v","ǜ") end replaced = false end tex.sprint(tex.ctxcatcodes,text) end

local letter = lpeg.R("az") local number = lpeg.R("09")

local pinyin = lpeg.C(letter^1) * lpeg.C(number^0) / commands.convertpinyin

local parser = (pinyin)^0

function commands.pinyin(str) parser:match(str) end

\stopluacode

\def\pinyin#1{\ctxlua{commands.pinyin([[#1]])}}

\starttext

\pinyin{ni2hao3} \pinyin{huai4}

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Am 16.03.2009 um 17:17 schrieb Bill Long:

The pinyin has 5 kind of tone for one pronunciation. As it's hard to input, and in CJK 1,2,3,4 are use to represent the tone, (the fifth is no special tone mark).

In the book for children, the pinyin always show above the Chinese like the picture I upload.

A solution like can be easy integrated in a ruby command because you need only a command parameter for the ruby text, e.g. \setupruby[command=\pinyin] but you're looking for something like the translate module.

To make it show correctly is an good start, but if there are some tools to automatic add PinYin , it will be more attractive. In Chinese they do have the character which have multi pronunciation, but most of them only has single pronunciation, I can try to find out some dict to translate Chinese Character into PinYin if anyone can help integrate this convert tool into context.

If you can provide such a list Hans can add the information to char- def.lua, for the moment you have to rely on my \pinyin command, I have now written a new version on a word macro I found. Wolfgang \startluacode function commands.pinyin(str) str = string.gsub(str,"r1","1r") str = string.gsub(str,"r2","2r") str = string.gsub(str,"r3","3r") str = string.gsub(str,"r4","4r") str = string.gsub(str,"r5","5r") str = string.gsub(str,"ng1","1ng") str = string.gsub(str,"ng2","2ng") str = string.gsub(str,"ng3","3ng") str = string.gsub(str,"ng4","4ng") str = string.gsub(str,"ng5","5ng") str = string.gsub(str,"n1","1n") str = string.gsub(str,"n2","2n") str = string.gsub(str,"n3","3n") str = string.gsub(str,"n4","4n") str = string.gsub(str,"n1","5n") str = string.gsub(str,"ai1","a1i") str = string.gsub(str,"ai2","a2i") str = string.gsub(str,"ai3","a3i") str = string.gsub(str,"ai4","a4i") str = string.gsub(str,"ai5","a5i") str = string.gsub(str,"ei1","e1i") str = string.gsub(str,"ei2","e2i") str = string.gsub(str,"ei3","e3i") str = string.gsub(str,"ei4","e4i") str = string.gsub(str,"ei5","e5i") str = string.gsub(str,"ao1","a1o") str = string.gsub(str,"ao2","a2o") str = string.gsub(str,"ao3","a3o") str = string.gsub(str,"ao4","a4o") str = string.gsub(str,"ao5","a5o") str = string.gsub(str,"ou1","o1u") str = string.gsub(str,"ou2","o2u") str = string.gsub(str,"ou3","o3u") str = string.gsub(str,"ou4","o4u") str = string.gsub(str,"ou5","o5u") str = string.gsub(str,"uu1","v1") str = string.gsub(str,"uu2","v2") str = string.gsub(str,"uu3","v3") str = string.gsub(str,"uu4","v4") str = string.gsub(str,"uu","ü") -- is this correct? str = string.gsub(str,"o1","ō") str = string.gsub(str,"o2","ó") str = string.gsub(str,"o3","ǒ") str = string.gsub(str,"o4","ò") str = string.gsub(str,"e1","ē") str = string.gsub(str,"e2","é") str = string.gsub(str,"e3","ě") str = string.gsub(str,"e4","è") str = string.gsub(str,"i1","ī") str = string.gsub(str,"i2","í") str = string.gsub(str,"i3","ǐ") str = string.gsub(str,"i4","ì") str = string.gsub(str,"u1","ū") str = string.gsub(str,"u2","ú") str = string.gsub(str,"u3","ǔ") str = string.gsub(str,"u4","ù") str = string.gsub(str,"v1","ǖ") str = string.gsub(str,"v2","ǘ") str = string.gsub(str,"v3","ǚ") str = string.gsub(str,"v4","ǜ") str = string.gsub(str,"a1","ā") str = string.gsub(str,"a2","á") str = string.gsub(str,"a3","ǎ") str = string.gsub(str,"a4","à") tex.sprint(tex.ctxcatcodes,str) end \stopluacode \def\pinyin#1{\ctxlua{commands.pinyin([[#1]])}} \starttext \definedfont[name:arialunicodems*default] \pinyin{ni2hao3} \pinyin{huai4} \stoptext

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 09:23:50PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Am 16.03.2009 um 17:17 schrieb Bill Long:

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The pinyin has 5 kind of tone for one pronunciation. As it's hard to input, and in CJK 1,2,3,4 are use to represent the tone, (the fifth is no special tone mark).

In the book for children, the pinyin always show above the Chinese like the picture I upload.

A solution like can be easy integrated in a ruby command because you need only a command parameter for the ruby text, e.g. \setupruby[command=\pinyin] but you're looking for something like the translate module.

In fact, 2 features I need, 1. the easy way to support PinYin, both input and the format, As I mentioned, I hope the pinyin can be placed over the Chinese character it represented automatically with some environment or so. 2. automatic convert/add pinyin to Chinese Character , now I use sed to make, but I still hope there are some more easy way.

...

To make it show correctly is an good start, but if there are some tools to automatic add PinYin , it will be more attractive. In Chinese they do have the character which have multi pronunciation, but most of them only has single pronunciation, I can try to find out some dict to translate Chinese Character into PinYin if anyone can help integrate this convert tool into context.

If you can provide such a list Hans can add the information to char- def.lua, for the moment you have to rely on my \pinyin command, I have now written a new version on a word macro I found.

Wolfgang

\startluacode

function commands.pinyin(str) str = string.gsub(str,"r1","1r") str = string.gsub(str,"r2","2r") str = string.gsub(str,"r3","3r") str = string.gsub(str,"r4","4r") str = string.gsub(str,"r5","5r") str = string.gsub(str,"ng1","1ng") str = string.gsub(str,"ng2","2ng") str = string.gsub(str,"ng3","3ng") str = string.gsub(str,"ng4","4ng") str = string.gsub(str,"ng5","5ng") str = string.gsub(str,"n1","1n") str = string.gsub(str,"n2","2n") str = string.gsub(str,"n3","3n") str = string.gsub(str,"n4","4n") str = string.gsub(str,"n1","5n") str = string.gsub(str,"ai1","a1i") str = string.gsub(str,"ai2","a2i") str = string.gsub(str,"ai3","a3i") str = string.gsub(str,"ai4","a4i") str = string.gsub(str,"ai5","a5i") str = string.gsub(str,"ei1","e1i") str = string.gsub(str,"ei2","e2i") str = string.gsub(str,"ei3","e3i") str = string.gsub(str,"ei4","e4i") str = string.gsub(str,"ei5","e5i") str = string.gsub(str,"ao1","a1o") str = string.gsub(str,"ao2","a2o") str = string.gsub(str,"ao3","a3o") str = string.gsub(str,"ao4","a4o") str = string.gsub(str,"ao5","a5o") str = string.gsub(str,"ou1","o1u") str = string.gsub(str,"ou2","o2u") str = string.gsub(str,"ou3","o3u") str = string.gsub(str,"ou4","o4u") str = string.gsub(str,"ou5","o5u") str = string.gsub(str,"uu1","v1") str = string.gsub(str,"uu2","v2") str = string.gsub(str,"uu3","v3") str = string.gsub(str,"uu4","v4") str = string.gsub(str,"uu","ü") -- is this correct?

it's correct, although this character maybe rarely/never been used with this tone.

str = string.gsub(str,"o1","ō") str = string.gsub(str,"o2","ó") str = string.gsub(str,"o3","ǒ") str = string.gsub(str,"o4","ò") str = string.gsub(str,"e1","ē") str = string.gsub(str,"e2","é") str = string.gsub(str,"e3","ě") str = string.gsub(str,"e4","è") str = string.gsub(str,"i1","ī") str = string.gsub(str,"i2","í") str = string.gsub(str,"i3","ǐ") str = string.gsub(str,"i4","ì") str = string.gsub(str,"u1","ū") str = string.gsub(str,"u2","ú") str = string.gsub(str,"u3","ǔ") str = string.gsub(str,"u4","ù") str = string.gsub(str,"v1","ǖ") str = string.gsub(str,"v2","ǘ") str = string.gsub(str,"v3","ǚ") str = string.gsub(str,"v4","ǜ") str = string.gsub(str,"a1","ā") str = string.gsub(str,"a2","á") str = string.gsub(str,"a3","ǎ") str = string.gsub(str,"a4","à") tex.sprint(tex.ctxcatcodes,str) end

\stopluacode

\def\pinyin#1{\ctxlua{commands.pinyin([[#1]])}}

\starttext

\definedfont[name:arialunicodems*default]

\pinyin{ni2hao3} \pinyin{huai4}

\stoptext

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