On 5/9/2016 10:42 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On 9 May 2016 at 10:28, Hans Hagen wrote:

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On 5/9/2016 9:41 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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http://xkcd.com/1676/

Mojca

PS: I guess that ConTeXt still lacks support for fillers and

\startalign[snakes] ... \stopalign

not to hard to implement but also not that high my list to demo it

Wasn't in obvious that I was joking? (Even though deep down I feared someone would reply with "here it is".)

well, its more like challenging us (in fact i remember messing a bit with this fill-to-end-of-line-with-rules stuff that you see in ugly official documents but then decided that lawyers should use justification instead) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

I once converted part of the xepersian package dealing with Kashida to ConTeXt (on LuaTeX). Being a newcomer, the result wasn't that great, though it did work for many situations. In a couple of weeks, I will have time to clean it up a bit and share with anyone who's interested. —MHB On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

On Mon, 9 May 2016 10:51:23 +0200 Hans Hagen wrote:

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Wasn't in obvious that I was joking? (Even though deep down I feared someone would reply with "here it is".)

well, its more like challenging us (in fact i remember messing a bit with this fill-to-end-of-line-with-rules stuff that you see in ugly official documents but then decided that lawyers should use justification instead)

It would be a better exercise to compose one's text in verse using words that fill all lines nicely eliminating entirely the need for justification. Maybe this should be an exercise for the upcoming Context meeting?

My entry will consist entirely of four-letter words...

Alan

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Hi,

Mojca: Wasn't in obvious that I was joking? (Even though deep down I feared someone would reply with "here it is”.)

I actually thought about doing just that ;) But it will take more work than is justified for simply an email reply. And it is a nice teaching opportunity, so we plan to get back on this topic during the upcoming ConTeXt meeting in Kalenberg.

Luigi: metapost ,head-body-tail or tail-body-head for the filler, lenght of the snake node programming...not bad. I could be useful when one has numbers, and wants to be sure that nobody prepend or append something.

Actually I had a use case for this some years back when I was attempting to reproduce old-fashioned woodblock print. But that predated most luatex development, and I ended up faking the whole thing using \hboxes. Best wishes, Taco

On 5/9/2016 11:12 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Hi,

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Mojca: Wasn't in obvious that I was joking? (Even though deep down I feared someone would reply with "here it is”.)

I actually thought about doing just that ;) But it will take more work than is justified for simply an email reply. And it is a nice teaching opportunity, so we plan to get back on this topic during the upcoming ConTeXt meeting in Kalenberg.

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Luigi: metapost ,head-body-tail or tail-body-head for the filler, lenght of the snake node programming...not bad. I could be useful when one has numbers, and wants to be sure that nobody prepend or append something.

Actually I had a use case for this some years back when I was attempting to reproduce old-fashioned woodblock print. But that predated most luatex development, and I ended up faking the whole thing using \hboxes.

there's actually already quite some in place to deal with such issues but the question often is what criteria to use and what interfacing and for criteria you need to know a bit about what a line is internally in terms of spacing ... i'm pretty sure that Taco will cover that aspect but you have to wait till Kalenberg to learn the details Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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http://xkcd.com/1676/

Mojca

PS: I guess that ConTeXt still lacks support for fillers and

\startalign[snakes] ... \stopalign

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In the true ConTeXt spirit, it should perhaps be

\startalign[cows] ... \stopalign

instead?

the ideal is a pattern like narrow x, they fill better the space -- luigi

On 9 May 2016, at 12:15, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

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PS: I guess that ConTeXt still lacks support for fillers and

\startalign[snakes] ... \stopalign

The snakes idea is actually pretty close to the practice of Kashida in Arabic typography (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashida),

It has been discussed on the Unicode list, also mentioning traditional Tibetan justification than kashida. http://unicode.org/pipermail/unicode/2016-May/003576.html

On 9 May 2016 at 12:35, Ulrike Fischer wrote:

Am Mon, 9 May 2016 09:41:39 +0200 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

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http://xkcd.com/1676/

http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/307795/how-to-create-nonbreaking-arbi...

Oh great, no need to fiddle with fonts. The snake fragments are already available as vector images: https://gist.github.com/wrtlprnft/4cc8fe07f114449f0d8748fe60af39e9 Mojca