why not support Emacs? AucTeX is mature. Kevin D. Robbins wrote:

Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really comfortable using only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test this option.

Kevin

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Carlos Breton Besnier wrote:

stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available?

no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the minimals as option

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TeXworks would be a good choice too, if you want a simple interface that just works. It can be used as a portable application on windows too, and I believe it can combined easily with context minimals. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 01:06:31PM -0600, Kevin D. Robbins wrote:

Well, I and another colleague do use Emacs on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux alike. The folks I'm planning to help get started with ConTeXt, though, are as intimidated by Emacs as they are by the command line. I'm hoping that Scite will feel a bit more natural to them.

Kevin

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Mohamed Bana wrote:

why not support Emacs?  AucTeX is mature.

Kevin D. Robbins wrote:

Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really comfortable using only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test this option.

Kevin

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Hans Hagen > wrote:

   Carlos Breton Besnier wrote:

       stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available?

   no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the    minimals as option

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Thanks! I'll play around a bit with TeXWorks and Notepad++. Kevin 2009/6/11 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد

On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:05:07 -0600, Kevin D. Robbins < krobbins@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:

Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support

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in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really comfortable using only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test this option.

If you want something really comfortable for Windows users, try the Notepad++ setup:

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Image:Npp_ConTeXt-Uni.zip

I don't have Vista, which uses a different dir structure for the files, but you can easily adopt this as needed.

Best wishes Idris

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right now the most important thing missing in the distribution is: gs, ruby, xml stuffs, gzip, zip, and tidy. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

Kevin D. Robbins wrote:

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Thanks! I'll play around a bit with TeXWorks and Notepad++.

i have texworks kind of working (stripped and patched set of configuration files) and at some point i will add them to the distribution

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Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 2009-06-13 um 04:29 schrieb Yue Wang:

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right now the most important thing missing in the distribution is: gs, ruby, xml stuffs, gzip, zip, and tidy.

of course; at best just include a whole Windows.

No, really, before providing everything in some monster install, better provide a Linux VM image.

the mswincontext zip always provided ruby and gs and as well as xmlproc and xsltproc it's just that now that we have the garden minimals i no longer make my own so making mswincontex makes less sense too however, mojca and i are working on a garden based variant (scite and texworks) btw, if one uses mkiv, ruby is no longer needed unless one wants to run specific scripts that are not yet luafied; but then, installing ruby is no big deal anyway Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Yue Wang wrote:

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btw, if one uses mkiv, ruby is no longer needed unless one wants to run specific scripts that are not yet luafied; but then, installing ruby is no big deal anyway

How about process the mkii document using lua script too? So eventually we can get rid of ruby and perl.

for that i need to rewrite the index sorting in lua (plus a little bit of tui -> tuo handling)

now context script supports --pdftex and --xetex switch, but it still fall back to texexec and texutils ruby scripts.

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Yue Wang wrote:

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the mswincontext zip always provided ruby and gs and as well as xmlproc and xsltproc

it's just that now that we have the garden minimals i no longer make my own so making mswincontex makes less sense too

What about make a mswinbonus.zip for the user who need them, like MacTeX shipped its gs/imagemagick...

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Yue Wang wrote:

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It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly complementing the utility programs from TeX Live.

it is just context minimals' extra... minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt.

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 17:05, Hans Hagen wrote:

Yue Wang wrote:

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It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly complementing the utility programs from TeX Live.

it is just context minimals' extra... minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt.

there will be a goodies option:

--goodies=scite,texworks,xml,gs

The option --goodies=texworks should work now. Once you run setuptex (or if you have set the path), you should be able to call just "texworks filename" from command line. Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are missing from the list ... Mojca

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 13:09, Hans Hagen wrote:

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are missing from the list ...

indeed. mkiv only as i don't want dependencies on perl/ruby in this case

So ... should I start blackmailing with "I'll remove it from minimals unless it starts supporting mkii" or rather with "I'll tell Jonathan that your configuration doesn't support XeTeX"? :) :) :) :) :) :) (Let's leave it up to users to install ruby themselves and it's totally ok if mkiv stays the default, but I see no reason for not providing XeTeX and pdfTeX support (with synctex switch on by default) on purpose ...)

(also, once the lua interface of texworks is stable and documented i'll see if i can make menus a bit more context friendly; for the moment i misuse the typesetting menu for a few 'features')

That's fine for me. Mojca