Hi, please have a look at this minimal example below: the version temporary gives an overfullrule for body text but not for footnotes! Is there something can be done (for the short term)? Regards, Steffen ------- \version[temporary] \showframe \starttext Test \hbox{text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text}. \startfootnote[ftn007] Test \hbox{text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text}. \stopfootnote \stoptext
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Datum: 7. Dezember 2010 12:34:00 MEZ An: mailing list for ConTeXt users Kopie: Hans Hagen Betreff: [NTG-context] bug: no overfullrule in footnotes! Antwort an: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi,
please have a look at this minimal example below: the version temporary gives an overfullrule for body text but not for footnotes!
Is there something can be done (for the short term)?
Regards, Steffen -------
\version[temporary] \showframe
\starttext
Test \hbox{text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text}. \startfootnote[ftn007] Test \hbox{text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text}. \stopfootnote
\stoptext
PS: The overfullrule for footnotes is only missing in MKIV ! Steffen
On 8-12-2010 2:14, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
PS: The overfullrule for footnotes is only missing in MKIV !
no overfull rules in mkiv (no plans either) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Am 09.12.2010 um 17:20 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 8-12-2010 2:14, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
PS: The overfullrule for footnotes is only missing in MKIV !
no overfull rules in mkiv (no plans either)
is this a well-founded decision? in footnotes there is often used non-breakable url and fixed spaces (\, etc.) in abbreviations. so overfull lines are very likely! how can these be adjusted when they are not indicated as overfull any more? maybe you could revise your opinion Steffen
On 9-12-2010 6:15, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Am 09.12.2010 um 17:20 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 8-12-2010 2:14, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
PS: The overfullrule for footnotes is only missing in MKIV !
no overfull rules in mkiv (no plans either)
is this a well-founded decision?
well, i never ever use(d) overfull rules myself ... so, in order to support it i'd also have to look at interference with recent mkiv node list parsing based solutions, so it has a real low priority (I will probably provide other means to check such things) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Am 09.12.2010 um 19:39 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 9-12-2010 6:15, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Am 09.12.2010 um 17:20 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 8-12-2010 2:14, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
PS: The overfullrule for footnotes is only missing in MKIV !
no overfull rules in mkiv (no plans either)
is this a well-founded decision?
well, i never ever use(d) overfull rules myself ... so, in order to support it i'd also have to look at interference with recent mkiv node list parsing based solutions, so it has a real low priority (I will probably provide other means to check such things)
of course, any means is welcome! we only really need an eye-caching way to skim if lines are overfull. as it is easy to typeset hundreds (or thousands?) of pages with context ... how to easily check where (by any reason) a line couldn't break and shot over textwidth, for instance?! Steffen
Steffen Wolfrum
Am 09.12.2010 um 19:39 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 9-12-2010 6:15, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Am 09.12.2010 um 17:20 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 8-12-2010 2:14, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
PS: The overfullrule for footnotes is only missing in MKIV !
no overfull rules in mkiv (no plans either)
is this a well-founded decision?
well, i never ever use(d) overfull rules myself ... so, in order to support it i'd also have to look at interference with recent mkiv node list parsing based solutions, so it has a real low priority (I will probably provide other means to check such things)
of course, any means is welcome! we only really need an eye-caching way to skim if lines are overfull. as it is easy to typeset hundreds (or thousands?) of pages with context ... how to easily check where (by any reason) a line couldn't break and shot over textwidth, for instance?!
Steffen
I used \showframe and grep against the log file. Bests -- Marco
On 9-12-2010 11:38, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
as it is easy to typeset hundreds (or thousands?) of pages with context .... how to easily check where (by any reason) a line couldn't break and shot over textwidth, for instance?!
i never check ... just set the tolerance to verytolerant and stretch ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Am 10.12.2010 um 12:29 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 9-12-2010 11:38, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
as it is easy to typeset hundreds (or thousands?) of pages with context .... how to easily check where (by any reason) a line couldn't break and shot over textwidth, for instance?!
i never check ... just set the tolerance to verytolerant and stretch
... and Hans defined "\dontcomplain" :o) Steffen
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 9-12-2010 6:15, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Am 09.12.2010 um 17:20 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 8-12-2010 2:14, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
PS: The overfullrule for footnotes is only missing in MKIV !
no overfull rules in mkiv (no plans either)
is this a well-founded decision?
well, i never ever use(d) overfull rules myself ...
I find overfull rules to be a quick way to scan for bad line breaks. Any other means for the same end would be nice. Aditya
Am 09.12.2010 um 17:20 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 8-12-2010 2:14, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
PS: The overfullrule for footnotes is only missing in MKIV !
no overfull rules in mkiv (no plans either)
Why, supporting it isn’t such a big deal, I prefer a new key for \setupalign to enable it. \version[temporary] % this sets \overfullrule to 4pt, default is 0pt \setupnote[footnote][bodyfont=] % Alternative 1, set \hfuzz at the begin of the footnote text %\setupnotedefinition[footnote][before=\hfuzz0.1pt] % Alternative 2, use tha align key for the footnote text \installalign{visualize}{\hfuzz0.1pt\relax} % spac-ali.mkiv \setupnotedefinition[footnote][align={normal,visualize}] \starttext aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa \footnote{aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa} \stoptext Wolfgang
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Aditya Mahajan
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Hans Hagen
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Marco Pessotto
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Steffen Wolfrum
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Wolfgang Schuster