Dear ConTeXt users, Currently I'm busy typesetting a book using ConTeXt. I use the Computer Modern (Serif, SansSerif and Italic) free font. I don't know much about the details of typescripts and typefaces, it's fairly complex and not very clear to me. The documents "Fonts in ConTeXt" and "TeXFont Explained" add even more to my confusion concerning fonts, sorry! I'd like to know whether it is possible to change all the 'normal' numerals to old-style ones throughout the entire book. I need serif, sansserif and italic old-style numerals! Frankly speaking, I don't even know whether anything like that is possible with either the Computer or Latin Modern font? Thanks! -- Geert C.H.M. Verhaag St. Jorisstraat 29 5954 AN Beesel NETHERLANDS Tel.: +31-(0)774742493, E-mail: verhaaggchm@ision.nl
G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
I'd like to know whether it is possible to change all the 'normal' numerals to old-style ones throughout the entire book. I need serif, sansserif and italic old-style numerals!
Frankly speaking, I don't even know whether anything like that is possible with either the Computer or Latin Modern font?
For Latin Modern, look in the mail archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050616.125032.05b714af.en.html -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Adam Lindsay wrote:
G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
I'd like to know whether it is possible to change all the 'normal' numerals to old-style ones throughout the entire book. I need serif, sansserif and italic old-style numerals!
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For Latin Modern, look in the mail archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050616.125032.05b714af.en.html
Thanks for your suggestion! But sorry, I don't get any old-style numerals when I run the example as shown in this link. Now the problem is that I don't know why it doesn't work. The log file of the texexec run doesn't give any hints either! I feel very uncomfortable now, because I'm completely dependent on advice given by font guru's! That's my main problem with TeX, LaTeX and ConTeXt, font handling is just terrible, when one doesn't understand the underlying principles! I've tried to read the ConTeXt manuals dealing with fonts. Unfortunately this didn't help at all, it has added even more to the confusion, sorry! It seems that this mail is also a desperate call for up-to-date documentation regarding this topic! Regards, Gerard -- Gerard C.H.M. Verhaag St. Jorisstraat 29 5954 AN Beesel NETHERLANDS Tel.: +31-(0)774742493, E-mail: verhaaggchm@ision.nl
G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
Adam Lindsay wrote:
For Latin Modern, look in the mail archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050616.125032.05b714af.en.html
Thanks for your suggestion!
But sorry, I don't get any old-style numerals when I run the example as shown in this link. Now the problem is that I don't know why it doesn't work.
Really? Try this minimal, complete example: \usetypescript [modern][\defaultencoding] \usetypescript [map] [latin-modern-os] [\defaultencoding] \setupbodyfont[modern] \starttext hello world 123 \ss 456 world hello \rmit hello world 789 \stoptext Do you have a recent ConTeXt? Do you have an up-to-date latin modern install? (Most advice/ConTeXt stuff depends on at least those two things, here.) adam -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Adam Lindsay wrote:
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Do you have a recent ConTeXt? Do you have an up-to-date latin modern install? (Most advice/ConTeXt stuff depends on at least those two things, here.)
adam
Hoi Adam, What do you call recent? I was using TeXLive 2004, and the ConTeXt version available from this CD. Maybe that's already ancient, but good enough for me! I've removed that one and installed TeXLive 2005! I was afraid of other problems, and indeed that's exactly what happened. I assume that ConTeXt is setup properly after the TeXLive installation! After setting my PATH correctly I issued the command texexec from the command line. The Perl script texexec doesn't launch!! I get the following Perl error message: Can't locate Digest/MD5.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/scripts/context/perl/texexec.pl line 54. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/scripts/context/perl/texexec.pl line 54. This missing MD5.pm is present in the directory: /usr/local/texlive/2005/xemtex/perl/lib So what should be my next move? Regards, Gerard -- Gerard C.H.M. Verhaag St. Jorisstraat 29 5954 AN Beesel NETHERLANDS Tel.: +31-(0)774742493, E-mail: verhaaggchm@ision.nl
G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
I've removed that one and installed TeXLive 2005! I was afraid of other problems, and indeed that's exactly what happened. ... The Perl script texexec doesn't launch!! I get the following Perl error message:
Can't locate Digest/MD5.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/scripts/context/perl/texexec.pl line 54. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/scripts/context/perl/texexec.pl line 54.
This missing MD5.pm is present in the directory: /usr/local/texlive/2005/xemtex/perl/lib
So what should be my next move?
I don't use TeXLive anymore, so I don't know. Sounds like a problem someone on the list has encountered, though! -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Adam Lindsay wrote:
G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
I've removed that one and installed TeXLive 2005! I was afraid of other problems, and indeed that's exactly what happened. ... The Perl script texexec doesn't launch!! I get the following Perl error message:
Can't locate Digest/MD5.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/scripts/context/perl/texexec.pl line 54. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/scripts/context/perl/texexec.pl line 54.
This missing MD5.pm is present in the directory: /usr/local/texlive/2005/xemtex/perl/lib
So what should be my next move?
I don't use TeXLive anymore, so I don't know. Sounds like a problem someone on the list has encountered, though!
normally this points to a conflict between an installed perl and one in tex live (the windows version ships with a perl dll); - if you have installed perl, remove the instance in tex live - updating your installed perl may also help Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hans Hagen wrote:
Adam Lindsay wrote:
G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
I've removed that one and installed TeXLive 2005! I was afraid of other problems, and indeed that's exactly what happened. ... The Perl script texexec doesn't launch!! I get the following Perl error message:
Can't locate Digest/MD5.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/scripts/context/perl/texexec.pl line 54. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/scripts/context/perl/texexec.pl line 54.
This missing MD5.pm is present in the directory: /usr/local/texlive/2005/xemtex/perl/lib
So what should be my next move?
I don't use TeXLive anymore, so I don't know. Sounds like a problem someone on the list has encountered, though!
normally this points to a conflict between an installed perl and one in tex live (the windows version ships with a perl dll);
- if you have installed perl, remove the instance in tex live - updating your installed perl may also help
Hans
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Dear Hans & Adam, Thanks! It was indeed my installation of perl on my Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 "Woody" rev2 that was simply incomplete! After having installed the Digest module texexec did run! Adam. after having solved the problem with Perl, your hints to use oldfigures in combination with the Latin Modern font worked with TeXLive 2005! A do have a final question about fonts in ConTeXt. Most of the time it suffices to use the pre-defined typefaces that come with ConTeXt, but what if one wants to alter them slightly? Well, one can try reading the manual Fonts in ConTeXt and TeXfont Explained! But to me those manuals are too difficult to read. So perhaps I should refrain from considering to modify typefaces and leave that to the experts. But I'd like to understand a bit more about the fonts stuff in ConTeXt. Maybe a very, very basic description of typescripts, fonts and typefaces will do a good job for the less advanced ConTeXt users? Regards, Gerard -- Geert C.H.M. Verhaag St. Jorisstraat 29 5954 AN Beesel NETHERLANDS Tel.: +31-(0)774742493, E-mail: verhaaggchm@ision.nl
On Mar 17, 2006, at 11:31 AM, G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
Maybe a very, very basic description of typescripts, fonts and typefaces will do a good job for the less advanced ConTeXt users?
Well, there's some info around on the web that you may want to have a look at: http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/context-help.html#selectfont- typescript (a bit dated, but still correct and very useful) http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2006-1/wierda/wierda.pdf (have a look at section 6, that should be of interest) this may get you started. HTH Thomas
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
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Well, there's some info around on the web that you may want to have a look at:
http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/context-help.html#selectfont- typescript (a bit dated, but still correct and very useful)
http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2006-1/wierda/wierda.pdf (have a look at section 6, that should be of interest)
this may get you started.
HTH
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Hoi Thomas, Thanks for your suggestions, and I'll certainly have a closer look at this fonts stuff! Regards, -- Gerard C.H.M. Verhaag St. Jorisstraat 29 5954 AN Beesel NETHERLANDS Tel.: +31-(0)774742493, E-mail: verhaaggchm@ision.nl
On 3/15/06, G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
Adam Lindsay wrote:
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Do you have a recent ConTeXt? Do you have an up-to-date latin modern install? (Most advice/ConTeXt stuff depends on at least those two things, here.)
adam
Hoi Adam,
What do you call recent? I was using TeXLive 2004, and the ConTeXt version available from this CD. Maybe that's already ancient, but good enough for me!
TeXLive 2004? Hans would probably call it ancient. If it is (was) OK for you, it's no problem, but in such cases (when you need an advice) you'll probably be left on your own if you want to keep using the old distribution. Latin Modern was last updated in November 2005 (I don't know if they're included in the last TeX live or not) and the latest ConTeXt is from February.
I've removed that one and installed TeXLive 2005! I was afraid of other problems, and indeed that's exactly what happened. ... So what should be my next move?
I don't know much about TeX live (the only time I tried to install it it was broken). Under linux I often use this one (if nothing else, no special privileges are needed for "installing" it): http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/linuxtex.zip You just unpack it somewhere and then put something like /path-to-new-tex/ /path-to-new-tex/setuptex into the file which is executed each time the shell is started. See the instructions. If you're in the dir where setuptex resides, you have to say . setuptex then make the formats (only the first time) and start using it. An alternative is to follow the installation instructions on the wiki, but I have absolutely no experience with that on linux. Mojca
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
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TeXLive 2004? Hans would probably call it ancient. If it is (was) OK ....
I've removed that one and installed TeXLive 2005! I was afraid of other problems, and indeed that's exactly what happened.
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So what should be my next move?
I don't know much about TeX live (the only time I tried to install it it was broken). Under linux I often use this one (if nothing else, no special privileges are needed for "installing" it): http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/linuxtex.zip
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An alternative is to follow the installation instructions on the wiki, but I have absolutely no experience with that on linux.
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Dear Mojca, Downloading the most recent ConTeXt is not really an option when one uses a slow analog telephone line (small bandwidth) when accessing the Internet. So I prefer to use the TeXLive CD's, but that's a bit old, yes. Installing TeXLive on my Linux based PC never really causes any real problems. Formerly I used mainly SuSE or RedHat, but I turned to Debian. This requires a bit more fine-tuning! Regards, -- Gerard C.H.M. Verhaag St. Jorisstraat 29 5954 AN Beesel NETHERLANDS Tel.: +31-(0)774742493, E-mail: verhaaggchm@ision.nl
G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
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TeXLive 2004? Hans would probably call it ancient. If it is (was) OK ....
I've removed that one and installed TeXLive 2005! I was afraid of other problems, and indeed that's exactly what happened.
...
So what should be my next move?
I don't know much about TeX live (the only time I tried to install it it was broken). Under linux I often use this one (if nothing else, no special privileges are needed for "installing" it): http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/linuxtex.zip
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An alternative is to follow the installation instructions on the wiki, but I have absolutely no experience with that on linux.
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Dear Mojca,
Downloading the most recent ConTeXt is not really an option when one uses a slow analog telephone line (small bandwidth) when accessing the Internet. So I prefer to use the TeXLive CD's, but that's a bit old, yes.
the context zip is not that large (<3 meg) unfortunately the latest tex live has problems with context and lm
Installing TeXLive on my Linux based PC never really causes any real problems. Formerly I used mainly SuSE or RedHat, but I turned to Debian.
i only test on suse (which we have run here for ages) so i cannot help there
This requires a bit more fine-tuning!
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Le 27 mars 06 à 13:55, Hans Hagen a écrit :
I've removed that one and installed TeXLive 2005! I was afraid of other problems, and indeed that's exactly what happened
unfortunately the latest tex live has problems with context and lm
Is there any simple way to solve these problems? Texlive is an important distribution, and it only releases once a year. So we have to wait arounf end 2006 before having a "Context friend" version of TeXlive? :-( Maurice,
On Monday 27 March 2006 14:59, Maurice Diamantini wrote:
Le 27 mars 06 à 13:55, Hans Hagen a écrit :
I've removed that one and installed TeXLive 2005! I was afraid of other problems, and indeed that's exactly what happened
unfortunately the latest tex live has problems with context and lm
Is there any simple way to solve these problems? Texlive is an important distribution, and it only releases once a year. So we have to wait arounf end 2006 before having a "Context friend" version of TeXlive? :-(
Maurice,
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I use TeXlive 2005 on my Slackware Linux system with no problems other than the usual font struggles. What problems are you having? My TeXLive disk was created in December. Perhaps you have an earlier one. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf
Maurice Diamantini wrote:
Le 27 mars 06 � 13:55, Hans Hagen a �crit :
I've removed that one and installed TeXLive 2005! I was afraid of other problems, and indeed that's exactly what happened
unfortunately the latest tex live has problems with context and lm
Is there any simple way to solve these problems? Texlive is an important distribution, and it only releases once a year. So we have to wait arounf end 2006 before having a "Context friend" version of TeXlive? :-(
yes, but one can easily install the latest context zip alongside tex live (there may even be updates for lm, iwona, kurier etc so those using such fonts need to update occasionally anyway) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hans Hagen wrote:
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Dear Mojca,
Downloading the most recent ConTeXt is not really an option when one uses a slow analog telephone line (small bandwidth) when accessing the Internet. So I prefer to use the TeXLive CD's, but that's a bit old, yes.
the context zip is not that large (<3 meg)
unfortunately the latest tex live has problems with context and lm
....
Hans
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Hans, What kind of problems are you referring at when it comes to ConTeXt and LM fonts on TeXLive 2005? Regards, Gerard -- G.C.H.M. Verhaag St. Jorisstraat 29 5954 AN Beesel NETHERLANDS Tel.: +31-(0)774742493, E-mail: verhaaggchm@ision.nl
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