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Jon Wong

21 Aug 2019 21 Aug '19

2:14 p.m.

Hi all, I want to have a \startnarrower effect. But I also want that segment to have a border (hopefully a gradient background color too!). I tried: \startnarrower \framed{testing} Seems framed doesn’t observe startnarrower commands. \endnarrower How do I achieve that? Regards Jon

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Hans Hagen

21 Aug 21 Aug

2:41 p.m.

On 8/21/2019 2:14 PM, Jon Wong wrote:

\startnarrower \framed{testing}

Seems framed doesn’t observe startnarrower commands. \endnarrower \starttext

Seems framed doesn’t observe startnarrower commands. \startnarrower \dontleavehmode \framed{testing} Seems framed doesn’t observe startnarrower commands. \startlinecorrection \dontleavehmode \framed{testing} \stoplinecorrection \stopnarrower \stoptext for gradients, see metafun and example sin test suite -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Jon Wong

2:53 p.m.

Hi all, I got some progress! \setupnarrower[left=2cm, right=2cm] % what does middle do, actually? \startnarrower \dontleavehmode\framed[width=local]{testing} Since this works for left offset: \framed[width=local]{testing} \endnarrower So, how do I do a gradient background? Yeah, I know I have to dive into MetaPost and MetaFun some time. Is that where the solution is? Regards Jon

On Aug 21, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Jon Wong wrote:

Hi all,

I want to have a \startnarrower effect. But I also want that segment to have a border (hopefully a gradient background color too!).

I tried:

\startnarrower \framed{testing}

Seems framed doesn’t observe startnarrower commands. \endnarrower

How do I achieve that?

Regards Jon

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Jon Wong

3:25 p.m.

Hi all, Sorry, my solution didn’t work. My purpose of using \startnarrower is to have some paragraphs of text inside the \framed. Unfortunately, it seems \framed doesn’t take paragraphs. \startframedtext doesn’t have as many border options as \framed. Should I use overlays? Or layers? It seems layers require absolutely positioning, and can’t be logically contained inside a \startnarrower? Regards Jon

On Aug 21, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Jon Wong wrote:

Hi all,

I got some progress!

\setupnarrower[left=2cm, right=2cm] % what does middle do, actually? \startnarrower \dontleavehmode\framed[width=local]{testing}

Since this works for left offset: \framed[width=local]{testing} \endnarrower

So, how do I do a gradient background? Yeah, I know I have to dive into MetaPost and MetaFun some time. Is that where the solution is?

Regards Jon

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On Aug 21, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Jon Wong wrote:

Hi all,

I want to have a \startnarrower effect. But I also want that segment to have a border (hopefully a gradient background color too!).

I tried:

\startnarrower \framed{testing}

Seems framed doesn’t observe startnarrower commands. \endnarrower

How do I achieve that?

Regards Jon

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Jon Wong

3:37 p.m.

Hi all, Ah, found the solution in TextBackground. At here: https://www.contextgarden.net/TextBackground https://www.contextgarden.net/TextBackground Can I have a 2-segment (2 vboxes) TextBackground (presumably with 2 TextBackgrounds, zero vspace between them)? For the top segment, I want rounded corners only for top corners (corner=03 with \framed). Seems I really should dig into MetaFun and TextBackground. Looks really fun and useful. Sorry for the noise. Am a little carried away exploring the Garden. :-P Regards Jon

On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:25 PM, Jon Wong wrote:

Hi all,

Sorry, my solution didn’t work.

My purpose of using \startnarrower is to have some paragraphs of text inside the \framed. Unfortunately, it seems \framed doesn’t take paragraphs.

\startframedtext doesn’t have as many border options as \framed.

Should I use overlays? Or layers? It seems layers require absolutely positioning, and can’t be logically contained inside a \startnarrower?

Regards Jon

...
On Aug 21, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Jon Wong wrote:

Hi all,

I got some progress!

\setupnarrower[left=2cm, right=2cm] % what does middle do, actually? \startnarrower \dontleavehmode\framed[width=local]{testing}

Since this works for left offset: \framed[width=local]{testing} \endnarrower

So, how do I do a gradient background? Yeah, I know I have to dive into MetaPost and MetaFun some time. Is that where the solution is?

Regards Jon

...
On Aug 21, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Jon Wong wrote:

Hi all,

I want to have a \startnarrower effect. But I also want that segment to have a border (hopefully a gradient background color too!).

I tried:

\startnarrower \framed{testing}

Seems framed doesn’t observe startnarrower commands. \endnarrower

How do I achieve that?

Regards Jon

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Jon Wong

4:21 p.m.

Hi all, Ok, last message in this topic, I promise. I’ve crafted a MWE. If I \setupwhitespace[line], the \blank[-0.5em] stops working. I’m sure I need to revise my TeX notes. For now, can somebody give me a little encouragement and tell me the answer? :-P \usecolors[xwi] % \setupwhitespace[line] \starttext \definetextbackground[secondary][ location=always, background=color, backgroundcolor=lightgray, leftoffset=.5\bodyfontsize, rightoffset=.5\bodyfontsize, topoffset=.5\bodyfontsize, bottomoffset=.5\bodyfontsize, frame=off,] \input knuth \startnarrower \dontleavehmode\framed[ width=local, corner=03, background=color, backgroundcolor=cyan, frame=off ]{My header!} \blank[-0.5em] \startsecondary \input knuth \stopsecondary \stopnarrower \input knuth \stoptext Regards Jon

On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:37 PM, Jon Wong wrote:

Hi all,

Ah, found the solution in TextBackground. At here: https://www.contextgarden.net/TextBackground https://www.contextgarden.net/TextBackground

Can I have a 2-segment (2 vboxes) TextBackground (presumably with 2 TextBackgrounds, zero vspace between them)?

For the top segment, I want rounded corners only for top corners (corner=03 with \framed).

Seems I really should dig into MetaFun and TextBackground. Looks really fun and useful.

Sorry for the noise. Am a little carried away exploring the Garden. :-P

Regards Jon

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On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:25 PM, Jon Wong mailto:jhannwong@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

Sorry, my solution didn’t work.

My purpose of using \startnarrower is to have some paragraphs of text inside the \framed. Unfortunately, it seems \framed doesn’t take paragraphs.

\startframedtext doesn’t have as many border options as \framed.

Should I use overlays? Or layers? It seems layers require absolutely positioning, and can’t be logically contained inside a \startnarrower?

Regards Jon

...
On Aug 21, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Jon Wong mailto:jhannwong@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I got some progress!

\setupnarrower[left=2cm, right=2cm] % what does middle do, actually? \startnarrower \dontleavehmode\framed[width=local]{testing}

Since this works for left offset: \framed[width=local]{testing} \endnarrower

So, how do I do a gradient background? Yeah, I know I have to dive into MetaPost and MetaFun some time. Is that where the solution is?

Regards Jon

...
On Aug 21, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Jon Wong mailto:jhannwong@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I want to have a \startnarrower effect. But I also want that segment to have a border (hopefully a gradient background color too!).

I tried:

\startnarrower \framed{testing}

Seems framed doesn’t observe startnarrower commands. \endnarrower

How do I achieve that?

Regards Jon

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Jon Wong

4:35 p.m.

Hi all, I’m so so sorry for yet another message in this thread. I’ve solved it, but still don’t quite understand why it works. I post the solution here so that nobody has to spend any time crafting the solution. But I still have 1 key question. Key question: Why does \setwhitespace[line] prevent \blank[-0.5em] from working after a \framed? (Ok. I better sleep before I pollute the mailing list further.) Apparent Solution: \usecolors[xwi] \setupwhitespace[line] \starttext \definetextbackground[secondary][ location=always, background=color, backgroundcolor=lightgray, leftoffset=.5\bodyfontsize, rightoffset=.5\bodyfontsize, topoffset=.5\bodyfontsize, bottomoffset=.5\bodyfontsize, frame=off,] \input knuth { \blank[line] \setupwhitespace[none] \startnarrower \dontleavehmode\framed[ width=local, corner=03, background=color, backgroundcolor=cyan, frame=off ]{My header!} \blank[-0.5em] \startsecondary { \setupwhitespace[line] \input knuth } \stopsecondary \stopnarrower } \input knuth \stoptext

On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:21 PM, Jon Wong wrote:

Hi all,

Ok, last message in this topic, I promise. I’ve crafted a MWE.

If I \setupwhitespace[line], the \blank[-0.5em] stops working. I’m sure I need to revise my TeX notes. For now, can somebody give me a little encouragement and tell me the answer? :-P

\usecolors[xwi] % \setupwhitespace[line]

\starttext \definetextbackground[secondary][ location=always, background=color, backgroundcolor=lightgray, leftoffset=.5\bodyfontsize, rightoffset=.5\bodyfontsize, topoffset=.5\bodyfontsize, bottomoffset=.5\bodyfontsize, frame=off,]

\input knuth

\startnarrower \dontleavehmode\framed[ width=local, corner=03, background=color, backgroundcolor=cyan, frame=off ]{My header!}

\blank[-0.5em]

\startsecondary \input knuth \stopsecondary \stopnarrower

\input knuth \stoptext

Regards Jon

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On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:37 PM, Jon Wong mailto:jhannwong@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

Ah, found the solution in TextBackground. At here: https://www.contextgarden.net/TextBackground https://www.contextgarden.net/TextBackground

Can I have a 2-segment (2 vboxes) TextBackground (presumably with 2 TextBackgrounds, zero vspace between them)?

For the top segment, I want rounded corners only for top corners (corner=03 with \framed).

Seems I really should dig into MetaFun and TextBackground. Looks really fun and useful.

Sorry for the noise. Am a little carried away exploring the Garden. :-P

Regards Jon

...
On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:25 PM, Jon Wong mailto:jhannwong@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

Sorry, my solution didn’t work.

My purpose of using \startnarrower is to have some paragraphs of text inside the \framed. Unfortunately, it seems \framed doesn’t take paragraphs.

\startframedtext doesn’t have as many border options as \framed.

Should I use overlays? Or layers? It seems layers require absolutely positioning, and can’t be logically contained inside a \startnarrower?

Regards Jon

...
On Aug 21, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Jon Wong mailto:jhannwong@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I got some progress!

\setupnarrower[left=2cm, right=2cm] % what does middle do, actually? \startnarrower \dontleavehmode\framed[width=local]{testing}

Since this works for left offset: \framed[width=local]{testing} \endnarrower

So, how do I do a gradient background? Yeah, I know I have to dive into MetaPost and MetaFun some time. Is that where the solution is?

Regards Jon

...
On Aug 21, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Jon Wong mailto:jhannwong@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I want to have a \startnarrower effect. But I also want that segment to have a border (hopefully a gradient background color too!).

I tried:

\startnarrower \framed{testing}

Seems framed doesn’t observe startnarrower commands. \endnarrower

How do I achieve that?

Regards Jon

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