Mojca Miklavec wrote:

Don't ask me why, but apparently these minimalistic differences are pretty important in publishing.

You're joking, aren't you? Publishing as dictated by the dtp world is only concerned about a few things: - everything should be on the grid (but manually tweak all exceptions, which are a lot) - use a lot of colors (but don't worry about about a systematic approach) - tell newbies not to use too many different fonts and sizes per page, but also don't tell them that in practice you should use as many as possible without any system in relative scaling - scale each graphic differently - tell tex users that their pdf file is wrong (probably a bitmap or so) because it's not made by their program and most importantly: - make a big fuzz about dimenions (like 8.45 point bodyfont sizes), claim to see the difference, but in practice consider adobe's bp to be the same as tex pt's and, i must not forget, - demands ragged right because it's impossible to do justification because if qe or pm cannot do it, it cannot be done anyway combined with: - set all (hyphenation etc) penalties to 10000 because it's only this ancient tex that cannot come to a solution when all those demands are to be met at the same time and, soon, - let texies turn off hz, protruding, and whatever obscure things but demands the same tweaking that id has built in but is named differently and therefore better and, yes, this one: - give texies their specs in terms of 'use the values as set in the third menu from the right, fifth entry, tenth button' and that will do it so ... in the end ... don't worry to much about small differences, because in the end nobody will contradict the designer (it's about art anyway), the printer (it was really your file that made the colors come out differently, the pages slightly smaller, the built in fonts show up weird, and so on) Hans (while looking at 100 books that are a series and supposedly were made from the same specs but messed up in the dtp process and printing) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

luigi.scarso wrote:

Hans Hagen wrote:

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Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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Don't ask me why, but apparently these minimalistic differences are pretty important in publishing.

You're joking, aren't you? Publishing as dictated by the dtp world is only concerned about a few things:

As soon as possible, you should complete style.pdf ( Typographic Programming ) luigi

(by the way, I use dd because I have a nice dtp-typometer with Punkte and Cicero and 0.5mm)

well, either that meter is flawed or you eyes are -) try: \the\dimexpr10nd-10dd\relax \the\dimexpr10nc-10cc\relax newdidot and newcicero: Don Knuth froze tex around the time that the standard changed -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Hans Hagen wrote:

yeah, a nice job for the coming winter, in my just finished library anex study annex attic annex music room -)

More I see style.pdf, more I like it (...about colors:with xpdf it's not easy to read) I'm sure that we need it : it will fill a hole. For programmer ,we have pdfs for pdftex (manuals and pdftex-web, ); for user/macro writer, we have pdfs for context (modules, cont-eni,ms-cb,metafun); for good design we will have style.pdf . luigi

Peter Rolf wrote:

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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Hello,

This question doesn't come from me, but as I wasn't able to answer, I'm posting it here:

Consider the following text:

\setupbodyfont[20pt] \starttext \input tufte

\switchtobodyfont[10pt]\setupinterlinespace\page \input tufte

\switchtobodyfont[10dd]\setupinterlinespace\page \input tufte

\switchtobodyfont[10.6574803pt]\setupinterlinespace\page % = 10dd \input tufte

\stoptext

How are the interline distances determined? The last two pages give different results. The line breaking could be influenced by minimal rounding mistakes, but I don't understand why the distances between lines differ substantially.

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Hi Mojca,

taken from 'TeX by Topic', page 80:

1157 didot points are 1238 points.

1238/1157= 1.070008643

I have tried it with 10.7pt. Looks the same. Mixed up bp with pt?

what dd's new or old -) \starttext \setupcolors[state=start] \startMPpage nd := \the\dimexpr50nd\relax ; dd := \the\dimexpr50dd\relax ; nc := \the\dimexpr50nc\relax ; cc := \the\dimexpr50cc\relax ; draw fullcircle scaled cc withcolor .9white withpen pencircle scaled (cc-nc) ; draw fullcircle scaled dd withcolor .9white withpen pencircle scaled (dd-nd) ; addbackground withcolor .5red ; \stopMPpage \stoptext ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------