Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

Jaroslav Hajtmar

29 Mar 2012 29 Mar '12

8:50 a.m.

Hello all, I can not find a way to remove the quotes from the results of the reference link Can someone help? Thanx Jaroslav Hajtmar Here is minimal example: \starttext \section[first]{First} \subsection[second]{Second} \input tufte \in{(see section}{ \about[second] at page \at[second])}[second]. \stoptext

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Wolfgang Schuster

29 Mar 29 Mar

8:55 a.m.

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Am 29.03.2012 um 08:50 schrieb Jaroslav Hajtmar:

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Hello all, I can not find a way to remove the quotes from the results of the reference link Can someone help?

Use \getreference[title][second] to print the title of the heading. Wolfgang

Alan BRASLAU

9:11 a.m.

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:50:06 +0200 Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

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Hello all, I can not find a way to remove the quotes from the results of the reference link Can someone help?

On a similar line, concerning syntax (but not references), the braces grouping keywords get passed on to the pdf properties: \setupinteraction [keyword={syntax, braces, commas}] Is this a bug or else the incorrect use of braces? Alan

Hans Hagen

10:32 a.m.

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On 29-3-2012 09:11, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:50:06 +0200 Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

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Hello all, I can not find a way to remove the quotes from the results of the reference link Can someone help?

On a similar line, concerning syntax (but not references), the braces grouping keywords get passed on to the pdf properties:

\setupinteraction [keyword={syntax, braces, commas}]

Is this a bug or else the incorrect use of braces?

That's weird, as here I get no { } in the properties shown by acrobat and the xml blob in the pdf has pdf:Keywordssyntax braces commas Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Mojca Miklavec

10:41 a.m.

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On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:32, Hans Hagen wrote:

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On 29-3-2012 09:11, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

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On a similar line, concerning syntax (but not references), the braces grouping keywords get passed on to the pdf properties:

\setupinteraction [keyword={syntax, braces, commas}]

Is this a bug or else the incorrect use of braces?

That's weird, as here I get no { } in the properties shown by acrobat and the xml blob in the pdf has

pdf:Keywordssyntax braces commas

I get the braces when there is a space after braces, for example \setupinteraction [author=me, title={long title} ] I solved the problem by adding a comma right after the last brace, but I would also call that "a hint of a tiny buglet somewhere" ;) (It also took me some time to realize that one has to use subtitle instead of subject and keyword instead of keywords.) Mojca

Hans Hagen

10:51 a.m.

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On 29-3-2012 10:41, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:32, Hans Hagen wrote:

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On 29-3-2012 09:11, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

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On a similar line, concerning syntax (but not references), the braces grouping keywords get passed on to the pdf properties:

\setupinteraction [keyword={syntax, braces, commas}]

Is this a bug or else the incorrect use of braces?

That's weird, as here I get no { } in the properties shown by acrobat and the xml blob in the pdf has

pdf:Keywordssyntax braces commas

I get the braces when there is a space after braces, for example

\setupinteraction [author=me, title={long title} ]

I solved the problem by adding a comma right after the last brace, but I would also call that "a hint of a tiny buglet somewhere" ;)

hm, but such a space before is always valid in key/value assignment or ] so there is no difference between title={long title} ] title={long title} , That has always been the case (ignoring leading an dtrailing spaces of a key would demand parsing token by token and that's not going to happen as it would slow down context a lot (so many parsing all over the place) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Mojca Miklavec

11:48 a.m.

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On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:51, Hans Hagen wrote:

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On 29-3-2012 10:41, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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I get the braces when there is a space after braces, for example

\setupinteraction [author=me, title={long title} ]

I solved the problem by adding a comma right after the last brace, but I would also call that "a hint of a tiny buglet somewhere" ;)

hm, but such a space before is always valid in key/value assignment or ] so there is no difference between

title={long title} ]

title={long title} ,

That has always been the case (ignoring leading an dtrailing spaces of a key would demand parsing token by token and that's not going to happen as it would slow down context a lot (so many parsing all over the place)

It seems that it is not the case here. But are you able to reproduce the behaviour? I get

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pdfinfo filename.pdf Title: {long title} Author: me

Mojca

Hans Hagen

12:02 p.m.

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On 29-3-2012 11:48, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:51, Hans Hagen wrote:

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On 29-3-2012 10:41, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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I get the braces when there is a space after braces, for example

\setupinteraction [author=me, title={long title} ]

I solved the problem by adding a comma right after the last brace, but I would also call that "a hint of a tiny buglet somewhere" ;)

hm, but such a space before is always valid in key/value assignment or ] so there is no difference between

title={long title} ]

title={long title} ,

That has always been the case (ignoring leading an dtrailing spaces of a key would demand parsing token by token and that's not going to happen as it would slow down context a lot (so many parsing all over the place)

It seems that it is not the case here. But are you able to reproduce the behaviour? I get

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pdfinfo filename.pdf Title: {long title} Author: me

Sure, as this gets split: "{a,b,c}" And this is seen as a whole: "{a,b,c} " and is not split Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Alan BRASLAU

2:24 p.m.

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I have: \setvariables [Book] [ title={My title}, subtitle={My subtitle}, author={First Author, Second Author and Third Author}, ] \setupinteraction [ title=\getvariable{Book}{title}, subtitle=\getvariable{Book}{subtitle}, author=\getvariable{Book}{author}, keyword={keyword1, keyword2, keyword3}, ] and this yields (in acroread 9): Title: My title Author: "First Author, Second Author and Third Author" Subject: My subtitle Keywords: keyword1 keyword2 keyword3 So, quotation marks (" ") get put around the author; The subtitle becomes the subject; and adding the trailing comma after keyword={}, indeed removes the {} but also removes the explicit commas. Alan

Hans Hagen

4:03 p.m.

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On 29-3-2012 14:24, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

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I have:

\setvariables [Book] [ title={My title}, subtitle={My subtitle}, author={First Author, Second Author and Third Author}, ] \setupinteraction [ title=\getvariable{Book}{title}, subtitle=\getvariable{Book}{subtitle}, author=\getvariable{Book}{author},

author={\getvariable{Book}{author}}, the expansion introduces the ,

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keyword={keyword1, keyword2, keyword3}, ]

and this yields (in acroread 9):

Title: My title Author: "First Author, Second Author and Third Author" Subject: My subtitle Keywords: keyword1 keyword2 keyword3

So, quotation marks (" ") get put around the author; The subtitle becomes the subject; and adding the trailing comma after keyword={}, indeed removes the {} but also removes the explicit commas.

Alan

Alan BRASLAU

5:18 p.m.

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:03:11 +0200 Hans Hagen wrote:

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author={\getvariable{Book}{author}},

the expansion introduces the ,

just to play it safe, putting {} around all \getvariable{}{} as in author={\getvariable{Book}{author}}, does not change anything. Acroread still displays quotes around the authors. Curiously, they do not appear under okular, so this is probably an Acroread quirk. Alan

luigi scarso

5:24 p.m.

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:03:11 +0200 Hans Hagen wrote:

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author={\getvariable{Book}{author}},

the expansion introduces the ,

just to play it safe, putting {} around all \getvariable{}{} as in author={\getvariable{Book}{author}}, does not change anything.

Acroread still displays quotes around the authors. Curiously, they do not appear under okular, so this is probably an Acroread quirk.

Alan

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: probably yes \nopdfcompression \setvariables [Book] [ title={My title}, subtitle={My subtitle}, author={First Author, Second Author and Third Author}, ] \setupinteraction [ title=\getvariable{Book}{title}, subtitle=\getvariable{Book}{subtitle}, author=\getvariable{Book}{author}, keyword={keyword1, keyword2, keyword3}, ] \starttext \input tufte \stoptext then open the pdf and you will see x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/"> http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"> http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"> dc:formatapplication/pdf dc:creator rdf:Seq rdf:liFirst Author, Second Author and Third Author (if you want to be sure, you can modify rdf:liFirst Author, Second Author and Third Author in rdf:liZirst Author, Second Author and Third Author ) -- luigi

Hans Hagen

7:48 p.m.

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On 29-3-2012 17:24, luigi scarso wrote:

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:03:11 +0200 Hans Hagen wrote:

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author={\getvariable{Book}{author}},

the expansion introduces the ,

just to play it safe, putting {} around all \getvariable{}{} as in author={\getvariable{Book}{author}}, does not change anything.

Acroread still displays quotes around the authors. Curiously, they do not appear under okular, so this is probably an Acroread quirk.

Alan

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: probably yes

\nopdfcompression \setvariables [Book] [ title={My title}, subtitle={My subtitle}, author={First Author, Second Author and Third Author}, ] \setupinteraction [ title=\getvariable{Book}{title}, subtitle=\getvariable{Book}{subtitle}, author=\getvariable{Book}{author}, keyword={keyword1, keyword2, keyword3}, ] \starttext \input tufte \stoptext

then open the pdf and you will see x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/"> http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"> http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"> dc:formatapplication/pdf dc:creator rdf:Seq rdf:liFirst Author, Second Author and Third Author

(if you want to be sure, you can modify rdf:liFirst Author, Second Author and Third Author in rdf:liZirst Author, Second Author and Third Author )

You can also try pdfinfo: Title: My title Subject: My subtitle Keywords: keyword1 keyword2 keyword3 Author: First Author, Second Author and Third Author Creator: ConTeXt - 2012.03.29 19:19 Producer: LuaTeX-0.71.0 CreationDate: 03/29/12 19:44:57 ModDate: 03/29/12 19:44:57 Tagged: no Pages: 1 Encrypted: no Page size: 595.276 x 841.89 pts (A4) File size: 14908 bytes Optimized: no PDF version: 1.6 and /Creator <feff0043006f006e00540065005800740020002d00200032003000310032002e00300033002e00320039002000310039003a00310039> definitely starts with an F Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Jaroslav Hajtmar

11:53 a.m.

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Hello all, Thanks for all the advice. Just allow me a little note: Due compatibility I compile my documents by ConTeXt MKIV, which is part of TeXLive the 2011. Command \getreference [title][ref], who described Wolfgang, here does not work!!! But this command is functional in the MKIV minimals standalone version. So I took the advice Steffen Wolfrum now, who works in both versions. Given that otherwise often work in minimals standalone version of ConTeXt, so I made a comment about Wolfgang advice - thanx. Thanx again. Jaroslav Hajtmar Dne 29.3.2012 10:51, Hans Hagen napsal(a):

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On 29-3-2012 10:41, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:32, Hans Hagen wrote:

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On 29-3-2012 09:11, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

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On a similar line, concerning syntax (but not references), the braces grouping keywords get passed on to the pdf properties:

\setupinteraction [keyword={syntax, braces, commas}]

Is this a bug or else the incorrect use of braces?

That's weird, as here I get no { } in the properties shown by acrobat and the xml blob in the pdf has

pdf:Keywordssyntax braces commas

I get the braces when there is a space after braces, for example

\setupinteraction [author=me, title={long title} ]

I solved the problem by adding a comma right after the last brace, but I would also call that "a hint of a tiny buglet somewhere" ;)

hm, but such a space before is always valid in key/value assignment or ] so there is no difference between

title={long title} ]

title={long title} ,

That has always been the case (ignoring leading an dtrailing spaces of a key would demand parsing token by token and that's not going to happen as it would slow down context a lot (so many parsing all over the place)

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Steffen Wolfrum

9:42 a.m.

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Hi Jaroslav, Am 29.03.2012 um 08:50 schrieb Jaroslav Hajtmar:

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Hello all, I can not find a way to remove the quotes from the results of the reference link Can someone help?

Thanx Jaroslav Hajtmar

Here is minimal example:

\starttext

\section[first]{First}

\subsection[second]{Second}

\input tufte

\in{(see section}{ \about[second] at page \at[second])}[second].

\stoptext

I use this: \setupreferencing[left=,right=,width=] Steffen

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