Hi, Do you have any cafepress/spreadshirt acount for selling t-shirts, tea cups, etc.? I think it could be useful for "fans" of ConTeXt. Thanks in advance, Xan
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 21:06, Xan wrote:
Do you have any cafepress/spreadshirt acount for selling t-shirts, tea cups, etc.? I think it could be useful for "fans" of ConTeXt.
No, but I have a pile of please-send-me-asap "I LOVE ConTeXt" T-shirts from the last conference (sorry, I keep sending them for at least a decade already) and there are still some spare ones. If you want one, let me know. Mojca
En/na Mojca Miklavec ha escrit:
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 21:06, Xan wrote:
Do you have any cafepress/spreadshirt acount for selling t-shirts, tea cups, etc.? I think it could be useful for "fans" of ConTeXt.
No, but I have a pile of please-send-me-asap "I LOVE ConTeXt" T-shirts from the last conference (sorry, I keep sending them for at least a decade already) and there are still some spare ones. If you want one, let me know.
1)Yes, I'm interested, but give me more details. What sizes are avaliable? Prices? Colors? Men/Woman? .... I googled it but I just found the design [http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2008/035005.html]. 2) Another related question is what is the license of the ConTeXt official logo and what is it. Is it the logo that appears in the wiki [http://wiki.contextgarden.net/skins/common/images/logo-alt4.png] or is it simply the graphics of typing "Con\TeX{t}" ? Depending what are the license of this logo, I or any other person could open Spreadshirt/cafepress for other people could receive T-shirts with "only" ConTeXt logo (without "I love" ;-)). I suppose that "ConTeXt" graphics is public domain, as anyone could have it typing only Con\TeXt and we have freedom speach. But the cicle ConTeXt image is another thing. Following [http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mreadme.pdf], the documentation and code have specific licenses but nothing is know about logos and trademarks. Can you answer? 2.5) Note: this is not my intention to register an official shop without your permision, obviously. 3) For the other hand, I'm interested in you having shop in spreadshirt/cafepress and if you are insterested in the idea, I could help you. I think this good for the both parts: ConTeXt users and Pragma ADE. For one hand, user could have (not only) t-shirts with ConTeXt logo and Pragma ADE could join money. And last, we promote the knowledge about not all in the world is LaTeX ;-) If you are insterested, I could register in spreadshirt or cafepress and being person in charge of that. Well, better co-"person in charge", because I believe best to have one "elder" context person with me ;-) But for the other hand I think I'm not the most appropiate for doing that because at least Spreadshirt ask for enterprise number, bank account for join money, ... data that I think it's Pragma ADE private data. Spreadshirt is best for europe and cafepress for US. With my best intentions, Xan.
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Hi Xan, Most of these questions should be answered by Mojca, I guess, but: Xan wrote:
2) Another related question is what is the license of the ConTeXt official logo and what is it. Is it the logo that appears in the wiki [http://wiki.contextgarden.net/skins/common/images/logo-alt4.png] or is it simply the graphics of typing "Con\TeX{t}" ? Depending what are the license of this logo, I or any other person could open Spreadshirt/cafepress for other people could receive T-shirts with "only" ConTeXt logo (without "I love" ;-)).
There is not really an official logo, but I think there are three things most people will likely recognize: * The word ConTeXt typeset in antykwa torunska, as in Mojca's T-shirts * The ConTeXt logo in the koeielogo font: \usesymbols[cow] \symbol[CowConTeXt] % IIRC * The blue traffic sign from the wiki. I have an mp file for that, which is attached. Best wishes, Taco
En/na Taco Hoekwater ha escrit:
Hi Xan,
Most of these questions should be answered by Mojca, I guess, but:
Xan wrote:
2) Another related question is what is the license of the ConTeXt official logo and what is it. Is it the logo that appears in the wiki [http://wiki.contextgarden.net/skins/common/images/logo-alt4.png] or is it simply the graphics of typing "Con\TeX{t}" ? Depending what are the license of this logo, I or any other person could open Spreadshirt/cafepress for other people could receive T-shirts with "only" ConTeXt logo (without "I love" ;-)).
There is not really an official logo, but I think there are three things most people will likely recognize:
* The word ConTeXt typeset in antykwa torunska, as in Mojca's T-shirts * The ConTeXt logo in the koeielogo font: \usesymbols[cow] \symbol[CowConTeXt] % IIRC It does not works for me. I hadn't koeielogo font. Even when I install context-nonfree (in ubuntu hardy) it does not works for me.
For the other hand, because it's simply pdf file resulting processing text file, I suppose it has public domain license. Is there any legal-aid lawyer? For the other hand, is there any trademark of ConTeXt? TeX is a registred trademark (as we could read in en.wikipedia). Perhaps Hans could answer that?.
* The blue traffic sign from the wiki. I have an mp file for that, which is attached.
It does not work for me too. When I run texexec or mpost (following the first page of metafun manual) I get the following error: This is MetaPost, Version 0.993 (Web2C 7.5.6) (/usr/share/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx) (prova-mpgraph.mp (contextlogo.mp ! Font uhvb8a not usable: TFM file not found. thelabel->...ture(EXPR3):infont.defaultfont.scaled .defaultscale.fi;if.laboff... l.28 label ("C", (0,v*f) ) withcolor textcolor; What's happen? What is the license of this file, Taco? I hope Mojca, or someone else, could answer the other questions. Thanks a lot, Xan.
Best wishes, Taco
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Am 12.03.2009 um 17:33 schrieb Xan:
* The blue traffic sign from the wiki. I have an mp file for that, which is attached.
It does not work for me too. When I run texexec or mpost (following the first page of metafun manual) I get the following error:
I have the same problem with the minimals, I moved the code now in a ConTeXt file and this works for me: % logo.mp: creates a blue traffic sign-style context logo % Copyright 2008 Taco Hoekwater % You are free to use this code any way you can \setupcolors[state=start,textcolor=white] \usetypescript[helvetica] \setupbodyfont[helvetica,120pt] \starttext \startMPpage[offset=0pt] color darkblue,textcolor; darkblue := (0.0625,0,.412); % 0f006b = textcolor := (1,1,1); def rect (expr xl,yl,r) = pickup pencircle scaled 1; draw (xl-.5r,yl-.5r) -- (xl+.5r,yl-.5r)-- (xl+.5r,yl+.5r) -- (xl-.5r,yl+.5r) -- cycle withcolor textcolor; enddef; f:= 14; h:=8; v:=4; fill fullcircle scaled 408 shifted (112,0) withcolor darkblue; label (textext("C"), (0,v*f) ) ; label (textext("O"), (f*h,2*v*f) ) ; label (textext("N"), (2*f*h,v*f) ) ; label (textext("T"), (0,-v*f) ) ; label (textext("E"), (f*h,0) ) ; label (textext("X"), (f*h*2,-v*f)) ; label (textext("T"), (f*h,-2*v*f)) ; r := h*f; rect (0,v*f,r); rect (f*h,2*v*f,r); rect (2*f*h,v*f,r); rect (0,-v*f,r); rect (f*h,0,r); rect (f*h*2,-v*f,r); rect (f*h,-2*v*f,r); \stopMPpage \stoptext Wolfgang
En/na Taco Hoekwater ha escrit:
For Xan:
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
% You are free to use this code any way you can
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
license
So public domain. But % Copyright 2008 Taco Hoekwater so, it's really "CC Atribution 3.0 unported" [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0] What this copyright means? Sorry for the "nuissance" ;-) Xan.
Xan wrote:
En/na Taco Hoekwater ha escrit:
For Xan:
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
% You are free to use this code any way you can
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
license
So public domain.
But % Copyright 2008 Taco Hoekwater
so, it's really "CC Atribution 3.0 unported" [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0]
What this copyright means? Sorry for the "nuissance" ;-)
It means that I don't care.
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Xan wrote:
En/na Taco Hoekwater ha escrit:
For Xan:
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
% You are free to use this code any way you can
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
license
So public domain.
But % Copyright 2008 Taco Hoekwater
so, it's really "CC Atribution 3.0 unported" [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0]
What this copyright means? Sorry for the "nuissance" ;-)
It means that I don't care.
it also means way less licence words to read than any gp license -) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Xan wrote:
En/na Taco Hoekwater ha escrit:
For Xan:
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
% You are free to use this code any way you can
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
license
So public domain.
But % Copyright 2008 Taco Hoekwater
so, it's really "CC Atribution 3.0 unported" [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0]
What this copyright means? Sorry for the "nuissance" ;-)
we're talking about the cowfonts? we've put them in the distribution because - we liked them - we wanted the wiki to use them (which is why there are some ligatures) but no one did that yet - we needed some funny font that related to context also, some day we might make aan open type variant with features now, one can use the font the way she/he wants but there is some restriction on messing around: the design/idea is copyrighted and so we don't want additional cows to show up in (a patched) font and this is why they're in non-free, not because they're not free, but because they should not be messed with (don't mess with animals) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
En/na Hans Hagen ha escrit:
Xan wrote:
En/na Taco Hoekwater ha escrit:
For Xan:
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
% You are free to use this code any way you can
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
license
So public domain.
But % Copyright 2008 Taco Hoekwater
so, it's really "CC Atribution 3.0 unported" [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0]
What this copyright means? Sorry for the "nuissance" ;-)
we're talking about the cowfonts?
In this message we are talking about the license of the code of Taco for doing in Metafun the wiki logo....
we've put them in the distribution because
- we liked them - we wanted the wiki to use them (which is why there are some ligatures) but no one did that yet - we needed some funny font that related to context
also, some day we might make aan open type variant with features
now, one can use the font the way she/he wants but there is some restriction on messing around: the design/idea is copyrighted and so we don't want additional cows to show up in (a patched) font and this is why they're in non-free, not because they're not free, but because they should not be messed with (don't mess with animals)
But good thing you talk about why cowfonts are non-free.... now I know one more thing ;-) For the other hand, the code suggest by Taco: \usesymbols[cow] \symbol[CowConTeXt] % IIRC does not work for me (I get "CowConTeXt" in pdf file). What fails? Regards, Xan.
Hans
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Am 13.03.2009 um 14:30 schrieb Xan:
For the other hand, the code suggest by Taco:
\usesymbols[cow] \symbol[CowConTeXt] % IIRC
does not work for me (I get "CowConTeXt" in pdf file). What fails?
\usesymbols[cow] \starttext \symbol[cownormal][CowConTeXt] \stoptext or \usesymbols[cow] \usesymbolset[cownormal] \starttext \symbol[CowConTeXt] \stoptext Wolfgang
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Am 12.03.2009 um 17:33 schrieb Xan:
* The blue traffic sign from the wiki. I have an mp file for that, which is attached.
It does not work for me too. When I run texexec or mpost (following the first page of metafun manual) I get the following error:
I have the same problem with the minimals, I moved the code now in a ConTeXt file and this works for me:
% logo.mp: creates a blue traffic sign-style context logo % Copyright 2008 Taco Hoekwater % You are free to use this code any way you can
\setupcolors[state=start,textcolor=white]
\usetypescript[helvetica] \setupbodyfont[helvetica,120pt]
\starttext
\startMPpage[offset=0pt] color darkblue,textcolor; darkblue := (0.0625,0,.412); % 0f006b = textcolor := (1,1,1); def rect (expr xl,yl,r) = pickup pencircle scaled 1; draw (xl-.5r,yl-.5r) -- (xl+.5r,yl-.5r)-- (xl+.5r,yl+.5r) -- (xl-.5r,yl+.5r) -- cycle withcolor textcolor; enddef;
f:= 14; h:=8; v:=4;
fill fullcircle scaled 408 shifted (112,0) withcolor darkblue; label (textext("C"), (0,v*f) ) ; label (textext("O"), (f*h,2*v*f) ) ; label (textext("N"), (2*f*h,v*f) ) ; label (textext("T"), (0,-v*f) ) ; label (textext("E"), (f*h,0) ) ; label (textext("X"), (f*h*2,-v*f)) ; label (textext("T"), (f*h,-2*v*f)) ; r := h*f;
rect (0,v*f,r); rect (f*h,2*v*f,r); rect (2*f*h,v*f,r); rect (0,-v*f,r); rect (f*h,0,r); rect (f*h*2,-v*f,r); rect (f*h,-2*v*f,r); \stopMPpage
\stoptext
Wolfgang
Thanks, Wolfgang. Now it works, but whith tiny letters (see attachments) Xan.
Am 12.03.2009 um 18:01 schrieb Xan:
Thanks, Wolfgang. Now it works, but whith tiny letters (see attachments)
New version (the old worked only under MkIV). % logo.mp: creates a blue traffic sign-style context logo % Copyright 2008 Taco Hoekwater % You are free to use this code any way you can \setupcolors[state=start,textcolor=white] \startMPenvironment \usetypescript[postscript][ec] \setupbodyfont[postscript,ss,120pt] \stopMPenvironment \usetypescript[postscript][ec] \setupbodyfont[postscript,ss,120pt] \starttext \startMPpage[offset=0pt] color darkblue,textcolor; darkblue := (0.0625,0,.412); % 0f006b = textcolor := (1,1,1); def rect (expr xl,yl,r) = pickup pencircle scaled 1; draw (xl-.5r,yl-.5r) -- (xl+.5r,yl-.5r)-- (xl+.5r,yl+.5r) -- (xl-.5r,yl+.5r) -- cycle withcolor textcolor; enddef; f:= 14; h:=8; v:=4; fill fullcircle scaled 408 shifted (112,0) withcolor darkblue; label (textext("C"), (0,v*f) ) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("O"), (f*h,2*v*f) ) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("N"), (2*f*h,v*f) ) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("T"), (0,-v*f) ) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("E"), (f*h,0) ) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("X"), (f*h*2,-v*f)) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("T"), (f*h,-2*v*f)) withcolor textcolor ; r := h*f; rect (0,v*f,r); rect (f*h,2*v*f,r); rect (2*f*h,v*f,r); rect (0,-v*f,r); rect (f*h,0,r); rect (f*h*2,-v*f,r); rect (f*h,-2*v*f,r); \stopMPpage \stoptext Wolfgang
En/na Wolfgang Schuster ha escrit:
Am 12.03.2009 um 18:01 schrieb Xan:
Thanks, Wolfgang. Now it works, but whith tiny letters (see attachments)
New version (the old worked only under MkIV).
% logo.mp: creates a blue traffic sign-style context logo % Copyright 2008 Taco Hoekwater % You are free to use this code any way you can
\setupcolors[state=start,textcolor=white]
\startMPenvironment \usetypescript[postscript][ec] \setupbodyfont[postscript,ss,120pt] \stopMPenvironment
\usetypescript[postscript][ec] \setupbodyfont[postscript,ss,120pt]
\starttext
\startMPpage[offset=0pt] color darkblue,textcolor; darkblue := (0.0625,0,.412); % 0f006b = textcolor := (1,1,1); def rect (expr xl,yl,r) = pickup pencircle scaled 1; draw (xl-.5r,yl-.5r) -- (xl+.5r,yl-.5r)-- (xl+.5r,yl+.5r) -- (xl-.5r,yl+.5r) -- cycle withcolor textcolor; enddef;
f:= 14; h:=8; v:=4;
fill fullcircle scaled 408 shifted (112,0) withcolor darkblue; label (textext("C"), (0,v*f) ) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("O"), (f*h,2*v*f) ) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("N"), (2*f*h,v*f) ) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("T"), (0,-v*f) ) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("E"), (f*h,0) ) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("X"), (f*h*2,-v*f)) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("T"), (f*h,-2*v*f)) withcolor textcolor ; r := h*f;
rect (0,v*f,r); rect (f*h,2*v*f,r); rect (2*f*h,v*f,r); rect (0,-v*f,r); rect (f*h,0,r); rect (f*h*2,-v*f,r); rect (f*h,-2*v*f,r); \stopMPpage
\stoptext
Wolfgang
Great!. It works now with MKII. Thanks a lot, Wolfgang, Xan.
En/na Wolfgang Schuster ha escrit:
Am 12.03.2009 um 18:01 schrieb Xan:
Thanks, Wolfgang. Now it works, but whith tiny letters (see attachments)
New version (the old worked only under MkIV).
% logo.mp: creates a blue traffic sign-style context logo % Copyright 2008 Taco Hoekwater % You are free to use this code any way you can
\setupcolors[state=start,textcolor=white]
\startMPenvironment \usetypescript[postscript][ec] \setupbodyfont[postscript,ss,120pt] \stopMPenvironment
\usetypescript[postscript][ec] \setupbodyfont[postscript,ss,120pt]
\starttext
\startMPpage[offset=0pt] color darkblue,textcolor; darkblue := (0.0625,0,.412); % 0f006b = textcolor := (1,1,1); def rect (expr xl,yl,r) = pickup pencircle scaled 1; draw (xl-.5r,yl-.5r) -- (xl+.5r,yl-.5r)-- (xl+.5r,yl+.5r) -- (xl-.5r,yl+.5r) -- cycle withcolor textcolor; enddef;
f:= 14; h:=8; v:=4;
fill fullcircle scaled 408 shifted (112,0) withcolor darkblue; label (textext("C"), (0,v*f) ) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("O"), (f*h,2*v*f) ) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("N"), (2*f*h,v*f) ) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("T"), (0,-v*f) ) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("E"), (f*h,0) ) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("X"), (f*h*2,-v*f)) withcolor textcolor ; label (textext("T"), (f*h,-2*v*f)) withcolor textcolor ; r := h*f;
rect (0,v*f,r); rect (f*h,2*v*f,r); rect (2*f*h,v*f,r); rect (0,-v*f,r); rect (f*h,0,r); rect (f*h*2,-v*f,r); rect (f*h,-2*v*f,r); \stopMPpage
\stoptext
Wolfgang
Wolfgang, perhaps now I will be a little bit noisy, but the logo in the wiki [http://wiki.contextgarden.net/skins/common/images/logo-alt4.png ] has the letters more bold rather than the mp graphic (see attachment below). How can we do thick more the letters? (and have exactly the same logo). I don't know metafun. Thanks in advance, Xan
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 12.03.2009 um 18:01 schrieb Xan:
Thanks, Wolfgang. Now it works, but whith tiny letters (see attachments)
New version (the old worked only under MkIV).
% logo.mp: creates a blue traffic sign-style context logo % Copyright 2008 Taco Hoekwater % You are free to use this code any way you can
\setupcolors[state=start,textcolor=white]
Ha, there is a trick that I know but Wolfgang does not ;)
\startMPenvironment
You can use \startMPenvironment[global]
\usetypescript[postscript][ec] \setupbodyfont[postscript,ss,120pt] \stopMPenvironment
then you do not need to repeat this.
\usetypescript[postscript][ec] \setupbodyfont[postscript,ss,120pt]
With [global] the environment is applied to both the MP file and the TeX file. Aditya
Am 12.03.2009 um 20:56 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
Ha, there is a trick that I know but Wolfgang does not ;)
What do you expect, I don't use ConTeXt as long as you do ;-)
\startMPenvironment
You can use \startMPenvironment[global]
\usetypescript[postscript][ec] \setupbodyfont[postscript,ss,120pt] \stopMPenvironment
\startMPenvironment[global] \usetypescript[postscript][ec] \setupbodyfont[postscript,ss,144pt]\bf \stopMPenvironment Wolfgang
En/na Wolfgang Schuster ha escrit:
\startMPenvironment[global] \usetypescript[postscript][ec] \setupbodyfont[postscript,ss,144pt]\bf \stopMPenvironment
Wolfgang
Without "\bf" at the end, I get letters more bold. Is it not the contrary of natural behaviour? 8-| Thanks, Xan.
Am 13.03.2009 um 14:18 schrieb Xan:
En/na Wolfgang Schuster ha escrit:
\startMPenvironment[global] \usetypescript[postscript][ec] \setupbodyfont[postscript,ss,144pt]\bf \stopMPenvironment
Without "\bf" at the end, I get letters more bold. Is it not the contrary of natural behaviour? 8-|
Weird??? Can you show the result with/without \bf. Wolfgang
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En/na Wolfgang Schuster ha escrit:
\startMPenvironment[global] \usetypescript[postscript][ec] \setupbodyfont[postscript,ss,144pt]\bf \stopMPenvironment
Wolfgang
Without "\bf" at the end, I get letters more bold. Is it not the contrary of natural behaviour? 8-|
Thanks, Xan.
Hi another time ;-) How can I get the background were transaparent? (not white) Xan.
En/na Wolfgang Schuster ha escrit:
Am 14.03.2009 um 14:50 schrieb Xan:
How can I get the background were transaparent? (not white)
What do you mean, the background is already transparent.
Wolfgang
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Wolfgang, when I run texexec prova.tex I obtain prova.pdf and prova-mpgraph.1 Both files have background white and not transparent background. I don't know how explain it. Perhaps this [http://www.mediacollege.com/adobe/photoshop/transparent/background.html] could help you (?). How do you mean that it's already transparent? Xan.
Am 14.03.2009 um 16:45 schrieb Xan:
Wolfgang, when I run texexec prova.tex I obtain prova.pdf and prova- mpgraph.1 Both files have background white and not transparent background. I don't know how explain it.
Perhaps this [http://www.mediacollege.com/adobe/photoshop/transparent/background.html ] could help you (?).
How do you mean that it's already transparent?
\setupcolors[state=start] \setupbackgrounds[page][background=color,backgroundcolor=green] \starttext \externalfigure[prova] \stoptext Wolfgang
En/na Wolfgang Schuster ha escrit:
Am 14.03.2009 um 16:45 schrieb Xan:
Wolfgang, when I run texexec prova.tex I obtain prova.pdf and prova-mpgraph.1 Both files have background white and not transparent background. I don't know how explain it.
Perhaps this [http://www.mediacollege.com/adobe/photoshop/transparent/background.html] could help you (?).
How do you mean that it's already transparent?
\setupcolors[state=start] \setupbackgrounds[page][background=color,backgroundcolor=green] \starttext \externalfigure[prova] \stoptext
Wolfgang
Eh? Green? I think in transparent. I transform your logo.pdf with GIMP and applying transparency in green color. The result I save as png file (gimp says me that eps does not support transparency!? is it true?). Please, see the png file and see that background is transparent. Xan.
Am 14.03.2009 um 17:15 schrieb Xan:
Eh? Green? I think in transparent.
I tried to show you the included pdf had a transparent background, the color is unimportant.
I transform your logo.pdf with GIMP and applying transparency in green color. The result I save as png file (gimp says me that eps does not support transparency!? is it true?).
Dunno about eps but AFAIK postscript 3(?) supports transparent colors.
Please , see the png file and see that background is transparent.
If you're interested I can send you a better version with bold letters. Wolfgang
En/na Wolfgang Schuster ha escrit:
Am 14.03.2009 um 17:15 schrieb Xan:
Eh? Green? I think in transparent.
I tried to show you the included pdf had a transparent background, the color is unimportant.
Eh? Can you explain with more details this fact?. I see green the blackground. Why do you say that it's not important and transparent?
I transform your logo.pdf with GIMP and applying transparency in green color. The result I save as png file (gimp says me that eps does not support transparency!? is it true?).
Dunno about eps but AFAIK postscript 3(?) supports transparent colors.
How do you pass from pdf to postscript?. When I run texexec prova.tex I get prova-mpgraph.1 that file says me that it's eps. How can I pass from this file to transparent postscript? or from pdf to postscript? In theory if postscript support transparent background, eps should do (?)
Please , see the png file and see that background is transparent.
If you're interested I can send you a better version with bold letters.
Yes, I want to have "exactly" the same logo of the wiki.
Wolfgang
Thanks Wolfgang for your hacking. ;-) Regards, Xan.
Am 14.03.2009 um 20:22 schrieb Xan:
I tried to show you the included pdf had a transparent background, the color is unimportant.
Eh? Can you explain with more details this fact?. I see green the blackground. Why do you say that it's not important and transparent?
Let me explain this on a example. \setupcolors[state=start] \starttext \externalfigure[contextlogo.png][frame=on] \page \setupbackgrounds[page][background=color,backgroundcolor=red] \externalfigure[contextlogo.png][frame=on] \stoptext You can on the first page the background of the picture is white, to show the site of the picture I enabled the frame. On the second page I set a background color for the entire page and as you can see the background of the picture around the circle has the same color as the page background, this could only happen because the background of the picture is transparent. If you go now back on the first page you can now see, the white background is not from the picture but from the page background.
I transform your logo.pdf with GIMP and applying transparency in green color. The result I save as png file (gimp says me that eps does not support transparency!? is it true?).
Dunno about eps but AFAIK postscript 3(?) supports transparent colors.
How do you pass from pdf to postscript?. When I run texexec prova.tex I get prova-mpgraph.1 that file says me that it's eps. How can I pass from this file to transparent postscript? or from pdf to postscript?
In theory if postscript support transparent background, eps should do (?)
Dou you need the eps generated or can you also use the pdf generated from ConTeXt with the included metapost graphic.
If you're interested I can send you a better version with bold letters.
Yes, I want to have "exactly" the same logo of the wiki.
Which size do you need? Wolfgang
En/na Wolfgang Schuster ha escrit:
Am 14.03.2009 um 20:22 schrieb Xan:
I tried to show you the included pdf had a transparent background, the color is unimportant.
Eh? Can you explain with more details this fact?. I see green the blackground. Why do you say that it's not important and transparent?
Let me explain this on a example.
\setupcolors[state=start] \starttext \externalfigure[contextlogo.png][frame=on] \page \setupbackgrounds[page][background=color,backgroundcolor=red] \externalfigure[contextlogo.png][frame=on] \stoptext
You can on the first page the background of the picture is white, to show the site of the picture I enabled the frame. On the second page I set a background color for the entire page and as you can see the background of the picture around the circle has the same color as the page background, this could only happen because the background of the picture is transparent. If you go now back on the first page you can now see, the white background is not from the picture but from the page background.
Yes, Wolfgang. Now I understand it. The actually process is: texexec prova.tex --> prova.pdf and prova-mpgraph.1 (eps file) generated. Try your code for prova.pdf: \setupcolors[state=start] \starttext \externalfigure[prova.pdf][frame=on] \page \setupbackgrounds[page][background=color,backgroundcolor=red] \externalfigure[prova.pdf][frame=on] \stoptext and I see what you said. So it has transparent background, but why gimp says that eps does not support transparency? Strange. Really strange.
If you're interested I can send you a better version with bold letters.
Yes, I want to have "exactly" the same logo of the wiki.
Which size do you need?
Size? The size of the font: the same. But more bold.If you see wiki logo have letters more bold than our pdf logo (see attachments)
Wolfgang
Thanks a lot, Xan.
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On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Xan wrote:
Yes, Wolfgang. Now I understand it. The actually process is: texexec prova.tex --> prova.pdf and prova-mpgraph.1 (eps file) generated.
and I see what you said. So it has transparent background, but why gimp says that eps does not support transparency? Strange. Really strange.
AFAIU, trasparency is implemented using specials in mp code, so the eps (the .1 file) does not contain transparency, but the pdf does. Did you open the pdf or the eps file in gimp? Aditya
En/na Aditya Mahajan ha escrit:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Xan wrote:
Yes, Wolfgang. Now I understand it. The actually process is: texexec prova.tex --> prova.pdf and prova-mpgraph.1 (eps file) generated.
and I see what you said. So it has transparent background, but why gimp says that eps does not support transparency? Strange. Really strange.
AFAIU, trasparency is implemented using specials in mp code, so the eps (the .1 file) does not contain transparency, but the pdf does. Did you open the pdf or the eps file in gimp? Aditya, when I open pdf or eps file in gimp, gimp pop-up a windows of convert the file. When the conversion is completed, it puts white background in the image. So I can't see if pdf has _really_ transparent background.
Xan.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 21:52, Xan wrote:
So it has transparent background, but why gimp says that eps does not support transparency? Strange. Really strange.
At least in older versions of (E)PS you cannot use "transparent blue" or "transparent red" to fill shapes for example. But the background is always transparent even in PostScript in the sense that unless you explicitely paint the background with white, you can include your image in another document and you won't see any white white rectangular border around it. GIMP doesn't really support EPS. I don't know what you need GIMP for, but when I need to convert some EPS or PDF image into transparent PNG, I do: gs -dSAFER -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE \ -sDEVICE=pngalpha \ -dTextAlphaBits=4 \ -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 \ -sOutputFile=converted_file.png \ -r100.0 \ (put here whatever number you want) original_file.pdf You can try that with the logo and you'll notice the transparent background with GIMP. Mojca
En/na Mojca Miklavec ha escrit:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 21:52, Xan wrote:
So it has transparent background, but why gimp says that eps does not support transparency? Strange. Really strange.
At least in older versions of (E)PS you cannot use "transparent blue" or "transparent red" to fill shapes for example. But the background is always transparent even in PostScript in the sense that unless you explicitely paint the background with white, you can include your image in another document and you won't see any white white rectangular border around it.
Okay Mojca. Anyone knows if newest version of eps support it?
GIMP doesn't really support EPS. I don't know what you need GIMP for, but when I need to convert some EPS or PDF image into transparent PNG, I do:
gs -dSAFER -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE \ -sDEVICE=pngalpha \ -dTextAlphaBits=4 \ -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 \ -sOutputFile=converted_file.png \ -r100.0 \ (put here whatever number you want) original_file.pdf
You can try that with the logo and you'll notice the transparent background with GIMP.
Thanks Mojca for this script. I did the same with gimp with more more effort (open eps file, gimp says that it should convert, then a file with white background appears and then I substitute white background with transparent background, and save as png file. Uf!!). Mojca, how is this script for converting pdf file to (newest) eps? For seeing if newest eps supports transparency.
Mojca
Regards, Xan.
Xan wrote:
Mojca, how is this script for converting pdf file to (newest) eps? For seeing if newest eps supports transparency.
This has nothing to do with 'newest eps'. It is to do with the appalling support for the eps format in the gimp. Eps has had transparant backgrounds since day one (a whole quarter-century ago). Best wishes, Taco
En/na Taco Hoekwater ha escrit:
Xan wrote:
Mojca, how is this script for converting pdf file to (newest) eps? For seeing if newest eps supports transparency.
This has nothing to do with 'newest eps'. It is to do with the appalling support for the eps format in the gimp. Eps has had transparant backgrounds since day one (a whole quarter-century ago).
Best wishes, Taco Clear, now.
Thanks for all (all of you), Xan.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 18:48, Xan wrote:
En/na Mojca Miklavec ha escrit:
No, but I have a pile of please-send-me-asap "I LOVE ConTeXt" T-shirts from the last conference (sorry, I keep sending them for at least a decade already) and there are still some spare ones. If you want one, let me know.
1)Yes, I'm interested, but give me more details. What sizes are avaliable? Prices? Colors? Men/Woman? ....
Men/woman: both Colors: mostly black (maybe three T-shirts of a different color at most). Women T-shirts came in two flavours, but most probably only the small ones (black with red sleeves) are left. Sizes: my coorganizer ordered 50 pieces, so I blindly assume that he has some left in most sizes. Just write to me off-list. Mojca
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Xan