good evening, all the examples in the manual use \NC before \NR is this a necessity? what is the logics behind this? is it more like an ending to the previous \NC ? \starttabulate[|l|l|l|] \NC A. \NC This Perfect Day \NC Ira Levin \NC \NR \NC B. \NC Opstaan op Zaterdag \NC Jan Gerhart Toonder \NC \NR \NC C. \NC Tot waar zal ik je brengen \NC Anton Koolhaas \NC \NR \NC D. \NC The City And The Stars \NC Arthur Clarke \NC \NR \stoptabulate please consider the following minimal example: \starttext \starttabulate \NC column 1 \NC \input tufte \input tufte \input tufte \NC \NR \stoptabulate \starttabulate \NC column 1 \NC \input tufte \input tufte \NC \NR \stoptabulate \stoptext if i don't put something between the two tabulates, they behave just like one, as if i didn't seperate them, they show up on the same page. am i missing something? -f -- illiterate? write for a free brochure!
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, frantisek holop wrote:
good evening,
all the examples in the manual use \NC before \NR is this a necessity?
Yes.
what is the logics behind this? is it more like an ending to the previous \NC ?
It is for historic reason. Originally, there was table (\starttable) which is syntax sugar and some extensions over the TaBlE macro package by Michael Wichura. In the TaBlE macro, the rule between the column is a column in iteself. So, in table macros \starttable[|l|l|l|] \NC 1 \NC 2 \NC 3 \NC \NR \stoptable will expand to something like \halign{ <preamble> \cr { <first column separator> & 1 & <1-2 col sep> & 2 & <2-3> col sep> & 3 & <last col sep> \cr } On the other hand, if you needed rules (lines) between the columns, you replace \NC by \VC, \starttable[|l|l|l|] \VC 1 \VC 2 \VC 3 \VC \NR \stoptable In this case, the inter-column separator in the \halign are replaced by the appropriate macros for rules. In this case, the last \VC is needed to indicate that you want a rule at the end. And if you do not want a rule, you need to indicate this by a \NC. Tabulate started as a mechanism to replace table, so the syntax was kept the same. Right now, tabulate does not implement vertical rules, so in the context of tabulate, having a last \NC seems redundant. As far as I understand, tabulate is supposed to ultimately backward compatible with table, and features will be added according to user demands or Hans needs.
\starttabulate[|l|l|l|] \NC A. \NC This Perfect Day \NC Ira Levin \NC \NR \NC B. \NC Opstaan op Zaterdag \NC Jan Gerhart Toonder \NC \NR \NC C. \NC Tot waar zal ik je brengen \NC Anton Koolhaas \NC \NR \NC D. \NC The City And The Stars \NC Arthur Clarke \NC \NR \stoptabulate
please consider the following minimal example:
\starttext \starttabulate \NC column 1 \NC \input tufte \input tufte \input tufte \NC \NR \stoptabulate
\starttabulate \NC column 1 \NC \input tufte \input tufte \NC \NR \stoptabulate \stoptext
if i don't put something between the two tabulates, they behave just like one, as if i didn't seperate them, they show up on the same page. am i missing something?
Why do you expect them to be on different pages? If you want vertical space between the tables, you can add a \blank in between the tables. Aditya
hmm, on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 07:52:00PM -0400, Aditya Mahajan said that
Tabulate started as a mechanism to replace table, so the syntax was kept the same. Right now, tabulate does not implement vertical rules, so in the context of tabulate, having a last \NC seems redundant. As far as I understand, tabulate is supposed to ultimately backward compatible with table, and features will be added according to user demands or Hans needs.
thanks for the great explanation. anybody writing a context book by a chance for publishing? :D
Why do you expect them to be on different pages? If you want vertical space between the tables, you can add a \blank in between the tables.
well, we could turn around that questin, couldn't we? why would i except them to be glued together? it's another object, why are they "connected"? i am not saying there should be a default whitespace between them, can be 0pt, but why are they glued together? -f -- i have nothing to say, but i can say it loudly.
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, frantisek holop wrote:
hmm, on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 07:52:00PM -0400, Aditya Mahajan said that
Tabulate started as a mechanism to replace table, so the syntax was kept the same. Right now, tabulate does not implement vertical rules, so in the context of tabulate, having a last \NC seems redundant. As far as I understand, tabulate is supposed to ultimately backward compatible with table, and features will be added according to user demands or Hans needs.
thanks for the great explanation.
anybody writing a context book by a chance for publishing? :D
I think that the book has been in the planning stage for a long time. The trouble with writing a book is that it takes a long time. I have started a series of articles in Tugboat on context, so I shall have enough material for a book in ... eh ... about 5 years :) Aditya
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:11:46 -0600, Aditya Mahajan
anybody writing a context book by a chance for publishing? :D
I think that the book has been in the planning stage for a long time. The trouble with writing a book is that it takes a long time. I have started a series of articles in Tugboat on context, so I shall have enough material for a book in ... eh ... about 5 years :)
Hopefully in a couple of years, once mkiv is stable, we should be done by then I hope. Coauthors welcome, so your tugboat articles could help... ;-) Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
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