Dear gang,
When referencing footnotes that reset each chapter, is there a way to include the chapter information? See attached and below:
======= \setuphead[chapter] [alternative=normal,conversion=R] \setuphead[subsection][alternative=text] \setuphead[subsection][distance=0em, textdistance=0.7em, sectionstopper=., criterium=local]
\setupnotation[footnote][way=bychapter]
\setupreferencestructureprefix [section] [default] [prefixstopper=\zerowidthspace]
\setupwhitespace[big] \starttext
\startchapter[title={First},reference={}] \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference1}] \input ward \startfootnote[footnote1] \input ward \stopfootnote{}
See \in{Footnote}[footnote2]. \stopsubsection \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference2}] \input ward \stopsubsection \stopchapter
\startchapter[title={Second}] \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference3}] \input ward \stopsubsection \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference5}] \input ward \startfootnote[footnote2] \input ward \stopfootnote{}
See \in{Footnote}[footnote1]. \stopsubsection \stopchapter \stoptext =======
If line 8 is commented - \setupnotation[footnote][way=bychapter] - we get what we expect. But if line 8 is activated, we get an ambiguity: Both references give back
"Footnote 1"
Whereas what we would like is something like this:
Footnote I.1
i.e., Chapter I, Footnote 1 - for the first footnote; and
Footnote II.1
i.e., Chapter II, Footnote 1 - for the second footnote.
Is there a straightforward way to do this?
[[Of course, for the roman chapter numbering we also run into the reference-numberconversionset issue of the other thread, where
\definestructureconversionset[OLIE][n,R,n,n,n,n][n] \setupreferencestructureprefix [section] [default] [prefixstopper=\zerowidthspace, numberconversionset=OLIE]
doesn't seem to work.]]
Thank you in advance for any guidance or pointers you can provide!
Best wishes Idris
Attached!
On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 15:04:02 -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu wrote:
Dear gang,
When referencing footnotes that reset each chapter, is there a way to include the chapter information? See attached and below:
======= \setuphead[chapter] [alternative=normal,conversion=R] \setuphead[subsection][alternative=text] \setuphead[subsection][distance=0em, textdistance=0.7em, sectionstopper=., criterium=local]
\setupnotation[footnote][way=bychapter]
\setupreferencestructureprefix [section] [default] [prefixstopper=\zerowidthspace]
\setupwhitespace[big] \starttext
\startchapter[title={First},reference={}] \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference1}] \input ward \startfootnote[footnote1] \input ward \stopfootnote{}
See \in{Footnote}[footnote2]. \stopsubsection \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference2}] \input ward \stopsubsection \stopchapter
\startchapter[title={Second}] \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference3}] \input ward \stopsubsection \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference5}] \input ward \startfootnote[footnote2] \input ward \stopfootnote{}
See \in{Footnote}[footnote1]. \stopsubsection \stopchapter \stoptext =======
If line 8 is commented - \setupnotation[footnote][way=bychapter]
- we get what we expect. But if line 8 is activated, we get an
ambiguity: Both references give back
"Footnote 1"
Whereas what we would like is something like this:
Footnote I.1
i.e., Chapter I, Footnote 1 - for the first footnote; and
Footnote II.1
i.e., Chapter II, Footnote 1 - for the second footnote.
Is there a straightforward way to do this?
[[Of course, for the roman chapter numbering we also run into the reference-numberconversionset issue of the other thread, where
\definestructureconversionset[OLIE][n,R,n,n,n,n][n] \setupreferencestructureprefix [section] [default] [prefixstopper=\zerowidthspace, numberconversionset=OLIE]
doesn't seem to work.]]
Thank you in advance for any guidance or pointers you can provide!
Best wishes Idris
Hi Idris,
you can enable the display of chapter numbers with the prefix-key:
\setupnotation [footnote] [prefix=yes, %prefixsegments=chapter, way=bychapter]
Wolfgang
Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد mailto:Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu 30. Juni 2018 um 23:04 Dear gang,
When referencing footnotes that reset each chapter, is there a way to include the chapter information? See attached and below:
======= \setuphead[chapter] [alternative=normal,conversion=R] \setuphead[subsection][alternative=text] \setuphead[subsection][distance=0em, textdistance=0.7em, sectionstopper=., criterium=local]
\setupnotation[footnote][way=bychapter]
\setupreferencestructureprefix [section] [default] [prefixstopper=\zerowidthspace]
\setupwhitespace[big] \starttext
\startchapter[title={First},reference={}] \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference1}] \input ward \startfootnote[footnote1] \input ward \stopfootnote{}
See \in{Footnote}[footnote2]. \stopsubsection \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference2}] \input ward \stopsubsection \stopchapter
\startchapter[title={Second}] \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference3}] \input ward \stopsubsection \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference5}] \input ward \startfootnote[footnote2] \input ward \stopfootnote{}
See \in{Footnote}[footnote1]. \stopsubsection \stopchapter \stoptext =======
If line 8 is commented - \setupnotation[footnote][way=bychapter]
- we get what we expect. But if line 8 is activated, we get an
ambiguity: Both references give back
"Footnote 1"
Whereas what we would like is something like this:
Footnote I.1
i.e., Chapter I, Footnote 1 - for the first footnote; and
Footnote II.1
i.e., Chapter II, Footnote 1 - for the second footnote.
Is there a straightforward way to do this?
[[Of course, for the roman chapter numbering we also run into the reference-numberconversionset issue of the other thread, where
\definestructureconversionset[OLIE][n,R,n,n,n,n][n] \setupreferencestructureprefix [section] [default] [prefixstopper=\zerowidthspace, numberconversionset=OLIE]
doesn't seem to work.]]
Thank you in advance for any guidance or pointers you can provide!
Best wishes Idris
Hi Wolfgang,
On Mon, 02 Jul 2018 00:58:44 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Idris,
you can enable the display of chapter numbers with the prefix-key:
\setupnotation [footnote] [prefix=yes, %prefixsegments=chapter, way=bychapter]
Many thanks for this. There is an unwanted side-effect: Let
marker = main-text footnote marker header = numeral for footnote header reference = reference numeral
The prefix appears in three places, e.g.,
marker - II.1 header - II.1 reference - II.1
but we only want the prefix in the reference, not anywhere else, e.g.,
marker - 1 header - 1 reference - II.1
The prefix in the main-text marker and in the footnote header are superfluous, e.g., the reader already knows which chapter one is reading. But to reference a footnote from a later chapter, a prefix is needed to let the reader know which chapter.
So the question is: Can the prefix be made to apply only to the reference and not the marker or notation header?
============== Observation:
For endnotes at the end of a book having the prefix in the header is also useful, i.e.,
marker - 1 header - II.1 reference - II.1
So a general mechanism to set the prefix for each of the above three would be useful.
If not currently supported, would like to make this a feature request. ==============
Thank you again, Wolfgang.
Best wishes Idris
Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد mailto:Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu 30. Juni 2018 um 23:04 Dear gang,
When referencing footnotes that reset each chapter, is there a way to include the chapter information? See attached and below:
======= \setuphead[chapter] [alternative=normal,conversion=R] \setuphead[subsection][alternative=text] \setuphead[subsection][distance=0em, textdistance=0.7em, sectionstopper=., criterium=local]
\setupnotation[footnote][way=bychapter]
\setupreferencestructureprefix [section] [default] [prefixstopper=\zerowidthspace]
\setupwhitespace[big] \starttext
\startchapter[title={First},reference={}] \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference1}] \input ward \startfootnote[footnote1] \input ward \stopfootnote{}
See \in{Footnote}[footnote2]. \stopsubsection \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference2}] \input ward \stopsubsection \stopchapter
\startchapter[title={Second}] \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference3}] \input ward \stopsubsection \startsubsection[title={},reference={reference5}] \input ward \startfootnote[footnote2] \input ward \stopfootnote{}
See \in{Footnote}[footnote1]. \stopsubsection \stopchapter \stoptext =======
If line 8 is commented - \setupnotation[footnote][way=bychapter]
- we get what we expect. But if line 8 is activated, we get an
ambiguity: Both references give back
"Footnote 1"
Whereas what we would like is something like this:
Footnote I.1
i.e., Chapter I, Footnote 1 - for the first footnote; and
Footnote II.1
i.e., Chapter II, Footnote 1 - for the second footnote.
Is there a straightforward way to do this?
[[Of course, for the roman chapter numbering we also run into the reference-numberconversionset issue of the other thread, where
\definestructureconversionset[OLIE][n,R,n,n,n,n][n] \setupreferencestructureprefix [section] [default] [prefixstopper=\zerowidthspace, numberconversionset=OLIE]
doesn't seem to work.]]
Thank you in advance for any guidance or pointers you can provide!
Best wishes Idris
Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد mailto:Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu 2. Juli 2018 um 14:34 Hi Wolfgang,
On Mon, 02 Jul 2018 00:58:44 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Idris,
you can enable the display of chapter numbers with the prefix-key:
\setupnotation [footnote] [prefix=yes, %prefixsegments=chapter, way=bychapter]
Many thanks for this. There is an unwanted side-effect: Let
marker = main-text footnote marker header = numeral for footnote header reference = reference numeral
The prefix appears in three places, e.g.,
marker - II.1 header - II.1 reference - II.1
but we only want the prefix in the reference, not anywhere else, e.g.,
marker - 1 header - 1 reference - II.1
The prefix in the main-text marker and in the footnote header are superfluous, e.g., the reader already knows which chapter one is reading. But to reference a footnote from a later chapter, a prefix is needed to let the reader know which chapter.
So the question is: Can the prefix be made to apply only to the reference and not the marker or notation header?
You have to set different prefixsegments settings for the note entries and the references.
\defineconversionset [OLIE] [n,R,n,n,n,n] [n]
\setuphead [sectionconversionset=OLIE]
\setupnotation [footnote] [prefix=yes, prefixset=none]
\setupreferencestructureprefix [footnote] [default] [prefixsegments=chapter, prefixset=all]
\starttext
\chapter{Chapter}
Hey\footnote[listen]{This is a footnote.}
See \in{footnote}[listen].
\stoptext
============== Observation:
For endnotes at the end of a book having the prefix in the header is also useful, i.e.,
marker - 1 header - II.1 reference - II.1
So a general mechanism to set the prefix for each of the above three would be useful.
If not currently supported, would like to make this a feature request.
I don’t think this is possible because marker and header share the same counter setups.
Wolfgang
On Mon, 02 Jul 2018 07:21:19 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com wrote:
Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد mailto:Idris.Hamid@colostate.edu 2. Juli 2018 um 14:34 Hi Wolfgang,
On Mon, 02 Jul 2018 00:58:44 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Idris,
you can enable the display of chapter numbers with the prefix-key:
\setupnotation [footnote] [prefix=yes, %prefixsegments=chapter, way=bychapter]
Many thanks for this. There is an unwanted side-effect: Let
marker = main-text footnote marker header = numeral for footnote header reference = reference numeral
The prefix appears in three places, e.g.,
marker - II.1 header - II.1 reference - II.1
but we only want the prefix in the reference, not anywhere else, e.g.,
marker - 1 header - 1 reference - II.1
The prefix in the main-text marker and in the footnote header are superfluous, e.g., the reader already knows which chapter one is reading. But to reference a footnote from a later chapter, a prefix is needed to let the reader know which chapter.
So the question is: Can the prefix be made to apply only to the reference and not the marker or notation header?
You have to set different prefixsegments settings for the note entries and the references.
\defineconversionset [OLIE] [n,R,n,n,n,n] [n]
\setuphead [sectionconversionset=OLIE]
\setupnotation [footnote] [prefix=yes, prefixset=none]
\setupreferencestructureprefix [footnote] [default] [prefixsegments=chapter, prefixset=all]
\starttext
\chapter{Chapter}
Hey\footnote[listen]{This is a footnote.}
See \in{footnote}[listen].
\stoptext
Excellent; this is a big help. Many thanks!
============== Observation:
For endnotes at the end of a book having the prefix in the header is also useful, i.e.,
marker - 1 header - II.1 reference - II.1
So a general mechanism to set the prefix for each of the above three would be useful.
If not currently supported, would like to make this a feature request.
I don’t think this is possible because marker and header share the same counter setups.
Ok, that makes sense. As always, thank you for your pointers and explanations!
Best wishes Idris
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Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد -
Wolfgang Schuster