Am 07.01.24 um 17:11 schrieb garulfo:

does this kind of poster would make sense ?

https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Cover_Pages#Poster_01_-_proposal_for_Libre_Pl...

Thank you, that looks good but it’s not what I had in mind. I meant a poster _about_ ConTeXt, not only made with our toolset (I have a stack of books for that). Maybe something about typography. Here’s how the DANTE booth at FrOSCon 2023 looked like: https://yemaya.fiee.net/s/qTkeXAmXmJeosJc (The “mindmap” diagram on the left shows projects supported by DANTE, in the middle a drawing by Duane Bibby, on the right a Tux with its TikZ source code in the back.) We also had posters that show the architecture of TeX/LaTeX, but they were seriously outdated. Some elements that might fit: – some example code (like from Mikael’s BachoTeX presentation) – anatomy of a word and a formula (with all those little boxes and measures), maybe also in Arabic – dodo & cow drawings from Mikael’s math manual – overview of layout areas (I re-made Sietse’s drawing from the wiki for my book) - workflow diagrams – parts of LuaMetaTeX – artwork by Eçir Baff (art-aleatoire.com) – Hans’ recent christmas card / memory game artwork But I don’t want just a wild collection of stuff, there should be something connecting them. It should be interesting to look at as well as basic information about ConTeXt. Hraban

Am 10.01.24 um 08:00 schrieb juh via ntg-context:

Am Sun, Jan 07, 2024 at 09:59:14AM +0100 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:

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I’d like to have a poster that shows off ConTeXt/MetaFun features. Do you have suggestions or (even better) would you like to create it? It would be nice to have for further events (last year I presented ConTeXt at FrOSCon and CCCamp and lacked a poster).

I just submitted a talk about how we use Markdown, Pandoc and ConTeXt at Hostsharing eG, so maybe we'll meet in Chemnitz.

Great! Then I can leave out this workflow and refer to your talk.

A poster would be nice. ConTeXt/MetaFun are overwhelmingly flexible and powerful. It is hard to come up with a good idea. Who is targeted?

At an open source fair or hacker meeting, the target groups seem to be – IT people who use TeX to create PDFs of software documentation – students/academics who use TeX for scientific work – people who look for open source solutions to all kind of tasks (e.g. at FrOSCon I had a long conversation about creating genealogy trees, since GRAMPS’ are ugly) There are also authors/selfpublishers/micropublishers, but these I meet at book fairs, not at open source conferences. For people who don’t know they might be happy with a “programming system” we’d need a different poster. (The LaTeX-based SPBuchsatz targets this clientele.) I want to show a few interesting things that are possible with ConTeXt/MetaPost and a few basics how it works. I guess I’ll use the “christmas card memory” patterns as a background (thanks, Hans!). I tried to sketch the relationship of Lua/TeX/MetaPost in LuaMetaTeX and ConTeXt LMTX around it, with different inputs and PDF/XML output – don’t know yet how to make this easily understandable…

ConTeXt is interesting for people that want to

integrate a typesetting system in a publishing environment, because ConTeXt does not stand in your way as LaTeX often do and has many programming features (lua, xml ...) or

typeset very customized layouts.

These two target groups are very different. Integratable building blocks for a complex publishing system or programmable layout machine – sorry, I am just brainstorming, but I like the idea of a poster.

Well, I’m using ConTeXt to produce PDFs for very different books, magazines, invoices/letters, presentations, jam labels, t-shirt designs… Not any more for interactive forms or shipping documents, because the projects have run out. And my online crossword puzzle generator (with ConTeXt and LaTeX output) doesn’t work anymore… We know ConTeXt/MetaPost is used for stock reports (hi Ramkumar), calendars (hi Willi), more books and magazines, textbooks and other educational material (e.g. math4all), energy reports (French power plants and Hans’ heating), planning model railways & typesetting stitching patterns (hi Taco), art (e.g. Eçir Baff), … In short: There aren’t only two groups, I guess. Hraban

On 11/01/2024 19:52, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Here’s a preliminary schema of LMTX. What do you think?

as is, it is difficult to understand where to look. what does is describe? e.g. what is the distinction between the 'source' (lua tex) and the 'resources' (fonts icc lib) and the 'frontend' (tex xml png ...mp) (no lua?)

On 11 Jan 2024, at 19:15, vm via ntg-context wrote:

On 11/01/2024 19:52, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

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Here’s a preliminary schema of LMTX. What do you think?

as is, it is difficult to understand where to look. what does is describe?

e.g. what is the distinction between the 'source' (lua tex) and the 'resources' (fonts icc lib) and the 'frontend' (tex xml png ...mp) (no lua?)

Agreed. In no particular order: 1. "ConTeXt" should be the biggest word - or as an obvious title for the poster, away from the actual drawing. 2. Don't add the "MkXL" bit - it's a distracting detail that no one needs to know at this stage. Also it looks like "Mk 40" in Roman numerals, or extra large. 3. I though Hans had stopped using the TeX style capitalisation now i.e. just "Context"? 4. It's not clear whether the intersecting boxes are simply decorative or meant to present some sort of logical structure. I'm happy for it to be decorative, in which case fewer labels might be better. 5. Similar to the box structure comment is that it's not clear which words I should be looking at. Ask yourself: what word(s) do I want the viewer to remember when they walk away? 6. Consider swapping the TeX and MetaPost circles so that Lua, MetaPost and TeX are read left to right as they appear in the acronym LMTX. Perhaps invert the "triangle" so that there are two circles at the top. 7. It doesn't really tell the viewer that Context is a typesetting system - it looks like it is a system for producing XMLs and PDFs. (Which is what it is but... much more) 8. Don't forget space for a URL and/or a QR code to the Contextgarden website. Sorry if the above sounds harsh - not meant to be - just brain storming. I have a suggestion though. Use the Christmas card code / memory game code to produce patterns to use as the dots in the QR code? If the QR is large enough for people to distinguish the individual dots then it would provide a talking point? Or maybe have a copy of the card game to hand and challenge them to find a randomly drawn card in the QR code? — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK