Dear ConTeXt users, I have started another service. Please note that this is not finished yet and might change or get out of service once in a while (I have no experience with such a service). You can process your ConTeXt documents online. Just point your browser to http://live.contextgarden.net and type in your favourite ConTeXt document. Click on "typeset" and you will be able to donwload the pdf file. Please report any errors to me! And again: this service is still some kind of "beta". Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net texshow-web: http://texshow.contextgarden.net List archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net
Hello,
one thing to add: I'd appreciate any kind of comments, since I have only tested it with safari and old versions of mozilla. If you think that there is anything strange, don't hesitate to tell me! And don't rely on your impression that others will do so, so there would no need for feedback. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net texshow-web: http://texshow.contextgarden.net List archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net
one thing to add: I'd appreciate any kind of comments, since I have only tested it with safari and old versions of mozilla. If you think that there is anything strange, don't hesitate to tell me! And don't rely on your impression that others will do so, so there would no need for feedback.
Patrick
Hmmm. Contextgarden with texshow are great ideas and tools for making usage of ConTeXt easier. So I desided to fill some contents occasionally. Two weeks ago and again two days ago I asked Patrick what to do if I want to write some macro description but the macro is not present in texshow. But no response I have received yet. So the above Patrick's annoucement is a bit funny for me ;-) OK, I ask here in the list again, see bellow. Cheers Vit Zyka -------------------------------------------------------------
Hallo Patrick,
i have noticed that the next group of macros is missing in the texshow-web:
\definelayer[name][...,=,...] \setlayer[name][...,=,...]{text}
Can you add them, please? Or there is another way how to do it?
Hello Vit,
Two weeks ago and again two days ago I asked Patrick what to do if I want to write some macro description but the macro is not present in texshow. But no response I have received yet. So the above Patrick's annoucement is a bit funny for me ;-)
OK, I ask here in the list again, see bellow.
Well, I have receieved your message, but was too busy on context-live. Your message is still in my inbox and I will work on texshow-web this week. Your suggestion is not that trivial, since I have an automatic update scheme that is not able to look at new entries. I will have to extend the program and do some testing. Sorry for the delay! Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net texshow-web: http://texshow.contextgarden.net List archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net
Patrick Gundlach wrote:
Hello Vit,
Well, I have receieved your message, but was too busy on context-live. Your message is still in my inbox and I will work on texshow-web this week. Your suggestion is not that trivial, since I ... Patrick
All right, I understand that.
\definelayer[name][...,=,...] \setlayer[name][...,=,...]{text}
Can you add them, please? Or there is another way how to do it?
i have to do that to the main file; since layers are relatively new i didn't do it yet, but i'll put it on my todo list -) Hans
Great! Vit
Vit Zyka wrote:
i have noticed that the next group of macros is missing in the texshow-web:
\definelayer[name][...,=,...] \setlayer[name][...,=,...]{text}
Can you add them, please? Or there is another way how to do it?
i have to do that to the main file; since layers are relatively new i didn't do it yet, but i'll put it on my todo list -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Two weeks ago and again two days ago I asked Patrick what to do if I want to write some macro description but the macro is not present in texshow. But no response I have received yet. So the above Patrick's annoucement is a bit funny for me ;-)
This also raises another problem: what to do if the syntax definition is wrong? The very first definition is wrong: \about's syntax is \about [ref] not \about {text} [ref] I fixed that in the garden, but will that new definition be destroyed at the next automatic update? (my change also didn't update the display, btw.) -- groeten, Taco
Hello Taco,
This also raises another problem: what to do if the syntax definition is wrong?
The very first definition is wrong: \about's syntax is \about [ref] not \about {text} [ref]
I fixed that in the garden, but will that new definition be destroyed at the next automatic update?
No, it won't. If it does, it it clearly an error. (I was a bit lying, the update is semi automatic, my script gives me the choice of using the changed entry on the webserver or the new one in cont-en.xml).
(my change also didn't update the display, btw.)
This is clearly an error that should not happen. I'll look into it this week. Thanks for the report. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net texshow-web: http://texshow.contextgarden.net List archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Two weeks ago and again two days ago I asked Patrick what to do if I want to write some macro description but the macro is not present in texshow. But no response I have received yet. So the above Patrick's annoucement is a bit funny for me ;-)
This also raises another problem: what to do if the syntax definition is wrong?
The very first definition is wrong: \about's syntax is \about [ref] not \about {text} [ref]
I fixed that in the garden, but will that new definition be destroyed at the next automatic update? (my change also didn't update the display, btw.)
best send such patches to me, or maybe collect them as comment so that they can be fed back to me Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
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I fixed that in the garden, but will that new definition be destroyed at the next automatic update? (my change also didn't update the display, btw.)
best send such patches to me, or maybe collect them as comment so that they can be fed back to me Hans
I collect all the changes in texshow-web and could notify you once in a while of the differences between the current cont-en.xml and texshow-web. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net texshow-web: http://texshow.contextgarden.net List archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net
one thing to add: I'd appreciate any kind of comments, since I have only tested it with safari and old versions of mozilla. If you think that there is anything strange, don't hesitate to tell me! And don't rely on your impression that others will do so, so there would no need for feedback.
Patrick
Here is what I wrote yesterday, but haven't sent yet :) Did I send this accidentaly ? :) :) :) It's a great service, it would just make sense to connect the wiki and code rendering, so that the code written would be automatically "copy-pasted" in the window (or any other mechanism to enable quick acces to the documents described in wiki). Well done again, Mojca Miklavec *** *** *** *** *** 1.) WIKI 1.1.) It would make sense to add a link to CenTeXt wiki from www.pragma-ade.com 1.2.) http://www.mayer.dial.pipex.com/latexrender.zip is an example of a tool which (as long as I have seen and understood it correctly) does nothing else but wrapping a (LaTeX) code, executing it and cropping the relevant part into PNG image. There are already modules for PHPBB and wiki. I guess it wouldn't take so much additional effort to enable some excelent feature to both the ConTeXt and texshow wiki: * rendering image as an example of the effect of the code written there For example, if someone would write: [context] a couple of lines of context code [/context] it would be shown as the code as well as a PNG image showing the result and perhaps an additional link to the PDF document rendered.
Hello Mojca,
Here is what I wrote yesterday, but haven't sent yet :) Did I send this accidentaly ? :) :) :)
No, but my looking-forward-in-time-gadget sent me a copy of your message ;-)
It's a great service, it would just make sense to connect the wiki and code rendering, so that the code written would be automatically "copy-pasted" in the window (or any other mechanism to enable quick acces to the documents described in wiki).
Yes, I was already thinking about that (if I am right, then the live... service was mainly for interactive content generation from the wiki). But I am not sure yet what and how should be done.
Well done again,
thanks!
* rendering image as an example of the effect of the code written there
For example, if someone would write: [context] a couple of lines of context code [/context]
yes, this is a good idea. I have also thougth about sth. like <texcommand>\setupframe</texcommand> that links to texshow-web and presents the syntax definition. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net texshow-web: http://texshow.contextgarden.net List archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net
Hello, [...]
1.) WIKI
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1.2.) http://www.mayer.dial.pipex.com/latexrender.zip is an example of a tool which (as long as I have seen and understood it correctly) does nothing else but wrapping a (LaTeX) code, executing it and cropping the relevant part into PNG image. There are already modules for PHPBB and wiki. I guess it wouldn't take so much additional effort to enable some excelent feature to both the ConTeXt and texshow wiki: * rendering image as an example of the effect of the code written there
For example, if someone would write: [context] a couple of lines of context code [/context]
This is now possible. So you can (for example) write <context> \setupcolors [state=start] \framed [background=color, backgroundcolor=green, offset=1cm ]{hello world!} </context> and guess what happens: it will display a black frame with green content and "hello world!" centered in it. I have not looked closely at latexrenderer though. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net texshow-web: http://texshow.contextgarden.net List archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net
Patrick, just gave the context service a try. concerning the UI i aks myself why i get default the logfile opened in a separate window and that i have to explicitly open the pdf file to see the result of what the action is all about in the first place :-) i would opt for a better 'result-ready' flag (e.g. providing the link to the result) instead of opening a log file that is of not too much interest when everything went OK. typeset if error then show (link) to log file and not to a (non-existing pdf) else provide links to pdf result and logfile also maybe more convenient to keep the typeset and reset buttons to the top (as well) close to the links of the (possible) result files. //Floris
Hello, Floris van Manen wrote:
i would opt for a better 'result-ready' flag (e.g. providing the link to the result) instead of opening a log file that is of not too much interest when everything went OK.
How about something like that: Show an intermediate page with a reload HTTP header which calls itself repeatedly a) If the PDF file exists redirect to the PDF page b) If no PDF exists but the texexec has ended, redirect to the logfile Maybe some option "[ ] don't load PDF file automatically", which shows a page where I can choose between PDF file and logfile, might be useful too. The redirect should not use http-equiv but the real HTTP header. Instead of reloading, you may also try Serverpush: # Use server push to display a "Please wait..." message for the user while # executing their query if their browser supports it and they are viewing # the bug list as HTML and they have not disabled it by adding &serverpush=0 # to the URL. # # Server push is a Netscape 3+ hack incompatible with MSIE, Lynx, and others. # Even Communicator 4.51 has bugs with it, especially during page reload. # http://www.browsercaps.org used as source of compatible browsers. # my $serverpush = $format->{'extension'} eq "html" && exists $ENV{'HTTP_USER_AGENT'} && $ENV{'HTTP_USER_AGENT'} =~ /Mozilla.[3-9]/ && $ENV{'HTTP_USER_AGENT'} !~ /[Cc]ompatible/ && $ENV{'HTTP_USER_AGENT'} !~ /WebKit/ && !defined($::FORM{'serverpush'}) || $::FORM{'serverpush'}; if ($serverpush) { print $cgi->multipart_start(); # Generate and return the UI (HTML page) from the appropriate template. $template->process("list/server-push.html.tmpl", $vars) print $cgi->multipart_end(); print $cgi->multipart_start(-type=>$contenttype); } #Generate normal content print $cgi->multipart_final() if $serverpush; Tobias
Hello Tobias, Floris and others, [live.contextgarden.net]
i would opt for a better 'result-ready' flag (e.g. providing the link to the result) instead of opening a log file that is of not too much interest when everything went OK.
How about something like that:
Show an intermediate page with a reload HTTP header which calls itself repeatedly a) If the PDF file exists redirect to the PDF page b) If no PDF exists but the texexec has ended, redirect to the logfile
which would be the same as just waiting for the texexec job to finish and then finish loading the website.
The redirect should not use http-equiv but the real HTTP header.
But, as far as I can see, the user would see an empty page until texexec stops (perhaps depending on the browser).
Instead of reloading, you may also try Serverpush:
yuck, this looks very evil to me. What I try to achieve is to be able to use the live... without javascript. And I still haven't found a good way of doing so. I'll stop the popup with the output, and I think I will wait for the website to load until the texexec jobs finishes. Patrick (thanks also for all the other suggestions) -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net texshow-web: http://texshow.contextgarden.net List archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net
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Floris van Manen -
Hans Hagen -
Mojca Miklavec -
Patrick Gundlach -
Taco Hoekwater -
Tobias Burnus -
Vit Zyka