Hello A long-cherished desideratum is automatic prohibition of hyphenation at the end of a recto page (except for split footnotes, where this is actually quite helpful in forcing the reader to complete the note on the following verso). That was always disallowed at OUP (but allowed at the end of a verso). I've never managed this in plain TeX, so that at the last moment I scroll through the odd-numbered pages putting words in an \hbox if the unwanted hyphen has happened (and one then has to keep an eye out for the rare case where paragraph reflow throws up another problem). Is this feasible in ConTeXt? Best wishes John Waś *🇪🇺 * Слава Україні! * 🇺🇦* http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail Virus-free.www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
On 7/5/2025 12:19 PM, John Was wrote:
Hello
A long-cherished desideratum is automatic prohibition of hyphenation at the end of a recto page (except for split footnotes, where this is actually quite helpful in forcing the reader to complete the note on the following verso). That was always disallowed at OUP (but allowed at the end of a verso).
I've never managed this in plain TeX, so that at the last moment I scroll through the odd-numbered pages putting words in an \hbox if the unwanted hyphen has happened (and one then has to keep an eye out for the rare case where paragraph reflow throws up another problem).
{\nohyphens ...} ... plenty no* commands like \noligaturing, \nokerning that can work local
Is this feasible in ConTeXt?
Widow, club and broken penaltiesa can be different for left and right pages and are controlled by keywords like "less.." and "strict.." and "default.." and some also have granularity [less|strict|default][widows|clubs|broken|orphans][:[2|3|4]] see spac-ver.mkxl around 520 so you can do \setuplayout[lines=29] % \setupalign[lessbroken] \starttext \dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{tufte}\par} \stoptext The problem with all these features is that even if there is demand we don't know about it and/or if it will ever be used. We just added things like that when we enhanced the par and page builders and exploring possibilities. There are all kind of goodies like that and you can set up these panalties any way you like but it's not always easy to come up with values that work well together. They are described in articles and low level manuals. Just for the record: in luametatex \widowpenalties and other array variants (of \widowpenalty etc) accept options like repeating, addition, left/right page alternatives. So it's something in the engine. In order to not confuse the singular and plural variants, the singular ones are overloaded in context to map onto the plural so that only one mechanism kicks in. Technically we could just remove the singulars completely. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for these pointers, Hans. I'll do a bit of experimentation.
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On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 at 13:56, Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 7/5/2025 12:19 PM, John Was wrote:
Hello
A long-cherished desideratum is automatic prohibition of hyphenation at the end of a recto page (except for split footnotes, where this is actually quite helpful in forcing the reader to complete the note on the following verso). That was always disallowed at OUP (but allowed at the end of a verso).
I've never managed this in plain TeX, so that at the last moment I scroll through the odd-numbered pages putting words in an \hbox if the unwanted hyphen has happened (and one then has to keep an eye out for the rare case where paragraph reflow throws up another problem).
{\nohyphens ...} ... plenty no* commands like \noligaturing, \nokerning that can work local
Is this feasible in ConTeXt?
Widow, club and broken penaltiesa can be different for left and right pages and are controlled by keywords like "less.." and "strict.." and "default.." and some also have granularity
[less|strict|default][widows|clubs|broken|orphans][:[2|3|4]]
see spac-ver.mkxl around 520
so you can do
\setuplayout[lines=29]
% \setupalign[lessbroken]
\starttext \dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{tufte}\par} \stoptext
The problem with all these features is that even if there is demand we don't know about it and/or if it will ever be used. We just added things like that when we enhanced the par and page builders and exploring possibilities. There are all kind of goodies like that and you can set up these panalties any way you like but it's not always easy to come up with values that work well together. They are described in articles and low level manuals.
Just for the record: in luametatex \widowpenalties and other array variants (of \widowpenalty etc) accept options like repeating, addition, left/right page alternatives. So it's something in the engine. In order to not confuse the singular and plural variants, the singular ones are overloaded in context to map onto the plural so that only one mechanism kicks in. Technically we could just remove the singulars completely.
Hans
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