On 5/30/2013 10:40 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

Thank you all for the feedback. My document uses dejavu - I will investigate this suggestion about fonts. It is not too surprising that the Mac is buggy, but this is somewhat worrisome.

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On Fri, 31 May 2013 06:17:49 +0200 Otared Kavian wrote:

On 30 mai 2013, at 22:40, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

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[…] It is not too surprising that the Mac is buggy, but this is somewhat worrisome.

I don't think the Mac, or the Mac OS X, is buggy… until it is proved that the problem is a real one on all Macs. The documents produced by mkiv or mkii, the ones I produce and the ones produced by Hans and others are searchable, and text can be copied and pasted elsewhere.

OK, the situation with the Mac is very strange. Today (an odd day), we can search for *some* text, but not all words are found. It does not have to do with special characters or formatting. Simple words. And the result in the "finder" does not always correspond to that of "preview". No problem copying and then pasting text. Investigating the question of fonts, I produced alternate versions using different fonts. All of these new files are indexed correctly, including a reprocessed version using dejavu. They were all produced using the same context standalone macros and binaries (as previously) and without any changes to the source files. My conclusion is that it is somehow a problem with some sort of cache on the Mac (that is how searching is quick), indeed a *bug* somehow corrupting this cache. So the problem must be real but highly irreproducible, being highly contingent. The new files were, of course, not indexed and cached. Conclusion, there is some sort of problem on Macs, but it is *not* with ConTeXt. Good! Alan P.S. Hans must be thinking that I have a problem with *odd* days... ;)

On Fri, 31 May 2013 14:53:31 +0200 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

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OK, the situation with the Mac is very strange. Today (an odd day), we can search for *some* text, but not all words are found. It does not have to do with special characters or formatting. Simple words. And the result in the "finder" does not always correspond to that of "preview".

What exactly do you mean with search in finder? Searching for all documents on your computer containing a specific word?

I am not a Mac user so I do not know all of the proper "App" jargon. I mean exactly opening the "finder" (file manager for normal people) and searching for all documents containing a specific word. (The word was "scarce" and "scarcity", not too frequent in his files... Ha, Ha!)

Do you also have problems searching for specific words in preview or not (you said that results are different)?

Yes, and it depends on the specific word and only in certain files (on certain days). I thus suspect a corrupted MacOS cache file...

I just remembered that sometimes (long ago) I had some kind of "problems" due to some tiny kerning/boxes inserted into PDF between characters to compensate for whatever (microtypography or just "random" corrections to fix the second/third decimal of precision in positioning). That sometimes confused readers which considered the text to be two or three words when it was in fact one. But I don't know if that is related. One can sometimes see that in google search showing html version of a pdf document with seemingly randomly distributed spaces.

No, there is no problem using non-MacOS applications such as Adobe Reader. Indeed, it does not appear to be a PDF problem but a MacOS problem. As I am not interested in debugging the Mac, and I have now convinced myself that there is no problem with the ConTeXt produced PDF, I have told my colleague to be careful and *not* to rely on his search tool. Maybe it is just his Mac that is corrupt. (Could also be an underlying file system problem.) Alan

Have you tried clearing your font cache? It is explained at http://www.extensis.com/support/knowledge-base/clearing-the-mac-os-x-font-ca... best, Mica On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:35 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

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(The word was "scarce" and "scarcity", not too frequent in his files... Ha, Ha!)

My surname, btw.

-- luigi

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