On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, cidadaum@sapo.pt wrote:

Citando Aditya Mahajan :

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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, cidadaum@sapo.pt wrote:

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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, cidadaum at sapo.pt wrote:

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Where did you unzip the module?

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Aditya

Here:

adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek> ls t-ancientgreek.mkii t-ancientgreek.tex type-agr.mkii type-agr.tex t-ancientgreek.mkiv t-oldgreek.tex type-agr.mkiv adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek>

The fonts are in: adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf/fonts/

If you are in the directory of your document, what does

kpsewhich t-ancientgreek.tex

and

luatools t-ancientgreek.tex

return?

Humm... this:

adsm@adsm:~> kpsewhich t-ancientgreek.tex adsm@adsm:~> luatools t-ancientgreek.tex the file 'luatools.lua' is not found adsm@adsm:~>

(Suppose something is wrong...). By the way I am using TexLive from a CD along with context minimals.

The fact that luatools is not working does not matter too much since you are using mkii. But kpsewhich not returning anything means that ConTeXt does not know where the greek module is, and hence cannot find it. Try running mktexlsr and see if kpsewhich t-ancientgreek.tex returns a path to the file. Aditya

On Jul 23, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Armando Martins wrote:

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(Suppose something is wrong...). By the way I am using TexLive from a CD along with context minimals.

We need more information: 1. What is your operating system? How do you set up TeXLive from the CD? How do you set up the minimals? 2. Run the following commands and tell us the output: echo $PATH which kpsewhich kpsewhich -expand-var '$TEXMF' kpsewhich -expand-var '$TEXINPUTS' which texhash sudo texhash As long as TeX can't find the module files, neither mkii nor mkiv will work, so that's the first and most important point. Thomas

On Jul 23, 2008, at 11:21 PM, cidadaum@sapo.pt wrote:

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OpenSuse 10.3

If memory serves right, SuSE has a few problems with its TeX setup: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080320.203129.aec3fb49.en.html But this is not the problem now.

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How do you set up TeXLive from the CD? Having launched the apropriate file to my architecture (i-386-linux) I chose the option R (run from CDwithout installing). But now I put back again the texlive from Suse (pity because my disk is falling short of space).

That's your problem: you now have several conflicting TeX installations.

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How do you set up the minimals?

In the shell: ~/context/tex/setuptex ~/context/tex

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2. Run the following commands and tell us the output:

echo $PATH

adsm@adsm:~> echo $PATH /opt/kde3/bin:/home/adsm/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/ X11:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib/jvm/jre/bin:/usr/lib/mit/bin:/ usr/lib/mit/sbin

As you can see here, the binaries from the minimals are not in your PATH.

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which kpsewhich

adsm@adsm:~> which kpsewhich /usr/bin/kpsewhich

This is a leftover from your SuSE TeX install.

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adsm@adsm:~> kpsewhich -expand-var '$TEXMF' {/home/adsm/texmf,!!/etc/texmf,!!/var/lib/texmf,!!/usr/share/ texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf,!!/usr/share/texmf/contrib}

Which means that only the TEXMF-trees of SuSE's installation are found.

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kpsewhich -expand-var '$TEXINPUTS'

adsm@adsm:~> kpsewhich -expand-var '$TEXINPUTS' :/home/adsm/.TeX:/usr/share/doc/.TeX:/usr/doc/.TeX

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which texhash

adsm@adsm:~> which texhash /usr/bin/texhash

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sudo texhash

adsm@adsm:~> sudo texhash Palavra passe: texhash: Updating /etc/texmf/ls-R... texhash: Updating /usr/share/texmf/../../../var/lib/texmf/db/ls-R... texhash: Updating /var/cache/fonts/ls-R... texhash: Updating /var/lib/texmf/ls-R... texhash: Done. adsm@adsm:~>

adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek> ls t-ancientgreek.mkii t-ancientgreek.tex type-agr.mkii type-agr.tex t-ancientgreek.mkiv t-oldgreek.tex type-agr.mkiv

adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek> ~/context/tex/setuptex ~/context/tex Setting "/home/adsm/context/tex" as TEXROOT. adsm@adsm:~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/greek> kpsewhere t-ancientgreek.tex ./t-ancientgreek.tex ./t-ancientgreek.tex ./t-ancientgreek.tex

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This doesn't mean anything; TeX will always search the current directory first, that's why the module is found. You have several ways to proceed: 1. Use the minimals. In that case, you will have to set the directory which contains the binaries for your platform FIRST in your path variable. Assuming you are using bash, a command like this should do this: PATH="/home/adsm/context/tex/texmf-linux/bin:$PATH" export PATH Then, to be sure, run echo $PATH again. If all goes well, you should now see /home/adsm/context/tex/ texmf-linux/bin as first item in your $PATH. The binaries here will be found first and thus used. Try the commands with "kpsewhere" and "which" again (the ones in my previous mail). ConTeXt should now be able to find the module. If this works, we'll tell you how to make these changes happen automatically at login. 2. Use the SuSE TeX installation. In that case, you'll need to modify the texmf.cnf that SuSE installs. Possible, but maybe a bit overwhelming for a newbie, not recommended. (The only advantage is that in this case, TeX would be controlled by SuSE's package manager, but since the SuSE team are not overly interested in TeX and don't do frequent updates, this is not a real advantage.) 3. TeXLive 2008 will be out in a few days. If space is an issue on your system, you may not want to install it since it's pretty big, but it's what I use, and it's pretty straightforward. You have almost everything you'll ever need (ConTeXt, LaTeX, fonts, packages such as tikz, etc.), and the 2008 edition will include an update manager. The decisive step is again to put the path pointing to the TeXLive binaries first in your $PATH variable. You're just two steps away from success, so don't give up! Thomas

On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 11:29 +0100, Armando Martins wrote:

Any advice about Tex friendly distros?

Well, I can only say this: My best experiences for "out of the box" functionality are from Ubuntu. Like Debian, they have taken TeXlive and broken it up into a number of packages to allow for some installation options and less bloat. Of course, you have the typical Linux ideology thing going on, so they also take whatever the DFSG thinks to be "non-free" and separate it out as its own package. Then they gzip the docs so you have to gunzip them if you want to use Acrobat, for example. MacTeX on OS X is really done quite well. I have no complaints. But you need a Mac, or forget it. I like FreeBSD, but its ports system does not seem to have the same philosophy as TeXlive, or there are just too few working on it there. I mean, if Debian can do it, why don't the clever duckies just look at a few build scripts... So there you either have to use the prebuilt FreeBSD binaries and install it yourself or build it from source, which I rather like to do anyway. I haven't tried on the other BSD's. I have generally found the Redhat family to be increasingly irksome for a number of reasons, not the least of which are SELinux and YUM. The same goes for SUSE, where YaST is king. I stopped using them before I moved from TeTeX. I am intrigued by Gentoo and its portage, but haven't tried it. And, just for grins, you can run good ole TeX on Plan 9. My last MikTeX experience yielded non-portable DVI files, that meaning all DVI viewers under Linux that I tried could not read a DVI generated by MikTeX. I think PDF works, though. But it's Microsoft . . . Charles

On Saturday 26 July 2008 09:05:01 am Martin Schröder wrote:

2008/7/25 Charles P. Schaum :

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Well, I can only say this: My best experiences for "out of the box" functionality are from Ubuntu. Like Debian, they have taken TeXlive and broken it up into a number of packages to allow for some installation

Ahm - has Ubuntu done anything or are they just using the wonderful Debian packages?

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I like FreeBSD, but its ports system does not seem to have the same philosophy as TeXlive, or there are just too few working on it there. I mean, if Debian can do it, why don't the clever duckies just look at a few build scripts... So there you either have to use the prebuilt FreeBSD binaries and install it yourself or build it from source, which I rather like to do anyway. I haven't tried on the other BSD's.

OpenBSD has a very good TL port; AFAIK the other BSDs are catching up.

Best Martin

I use texlive on Slackware. It also allows you to pick and choose what you install. My files end up in /usr/local/texlive/2007 Slackware has the tetex package in the Slackware distro but I always eliminate that one. It is quite obsolete. -- John Culleton Resources for every author and publisher: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf http://www.creativemindspress.com/newbiefaq.htm http://www.gropenassoc.com/TopLevelPages/reference%20desk.htm