On 1/16/2016 3:58 PM, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:

Am 16.01.2016 um 13:31 schrieb Schmitz Thomas A.:

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Please provide a minimal example of your problem. It’s impossible to help when we have no clue what you’re doing.

Sorry, of course.

After setting up a mwe I found that it is a font related issue.

When I don't specify a font, it works. --> example.tex

When I choose EB Garamond, it does not work. -- example-Garamond.tex

I confirmed this behaviour in my real setup.

don't assume that ligatures are always real ligatures ... in that font it's just kerning .. this kind of works okay: \replaceword[sellig][auflösen][auf{-}{}{\zwnj}lösen] ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On 1/18/2016 7:31 AM, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:

Am 17.01.2016 um 20:05 schrieb Hans Hagen:

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On 1/16/2016 3:58 PM, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:

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When I choose EB Garamond, it does not work. -- example-Garamond.tex

I confirmed this behaviour in my real setup.

don't assume that ligatures are always real ligatures ... in that font it's just kerning .. this kind of works okay:

\replaceword[sellig][auflösen][auf{-}{}{\zwnj}lösen]

Thanks a lot. This was new to me.

there are many hidden tricks ... to be revealed in due time (so that we can suggest that it was just implemented) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On 1/18/2016 10:16 AM, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:

Am 17.01.2016 um 20:05 schrieb Hans Hagen:

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On 1/16/2016 3:58 PM, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:

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Am 16.01.2016 um 13:31 schrieb Schmitz Thomas A.:

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Please provide a minimal example of your problem. It’s impossible to help when we have no clue what you’re doing.

Sorry, of course.

After setting up a mwe I found that it is a font related issue.

When I don't specify a font, it works. --> example.tex

When I choose EB Garamond, it does not work. -- example-Garamond.tex

I confirmed this behaviour in my real setup.

don't assume that ligatures are always real ligatures ... in that font it's just kerning .. this kind of works okay:

\replaceword[sellig][auflösen][auf{-}{}{\zwnj}lösen]

I am confused as the specimen of EB Garamond mentions (real) ligatures. They are listed as glyphs.

https://github.com/georgd/EB-Garamond/blob/master/specimen/Specimen.pdf

maybe the archaic st ligature is a precomposed but f f l i aren't done that way but by either kerning or replacement of individual glyphs + kerning (there are many methods for this) ... also, 'liga' might mean ligature but in practice is used for all kind of things ... in opentype 'ligature substitution' is just a many-to-one replacement but that doesn't mean that 'liga' uses that ... welcome to the inconsistent open type mess Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On 1/18/2016 1:46 PM, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:

Am 18.01.2016 um 11:09 schrieb Hans Hagen:

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On 1/18/2016 10:16 AM, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:

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Am 17.01.2016 um 20:05 schrieb Hans Hagen:

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On 1/16/2016 3:58 PM, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:

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Am 16.01.2016 um 13:31 schrieb Schmitz Thomas A.:

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Please provide a minimal example of your problem. It’s impossible to help when we have no clue what you’re doing.

Sorry, of course.

After setting up a mwe I found that it is a font related issue.

When I don't specify a font, it works. --> example.tex

When I choose EB Garamond, it does not work. -- example-Garamond.tex

I confirmed this behaviour in my real setup.

don't assume that ligatures are always real ligatures ... in that font it's just kerning .. this kind of works okay:

\replaceword[sellig][auflösen][auf{-}{}{\zwnj}lösen]

I am confused as the specimen of EB Garamond mentions (real) ligatures. They are listed as glyphs.

https://github.com/georgd/EB-Garamond/blob/master/specimen/Specimen.pdf

maybe the archaic st ligature is a precomposed but f f l i aren't done that way but by either kerning or replacement of individual glyphs + kerning (there are many methods for this) ... also, 'liga' might mean ligature but in practice is used for all kind of things ... in opentype 'ligature substitution' is just a many-to-one replacement but that doesn't mean that 'liga' uses that ... welcome to the inconsistent open type mess

Mh, yes. :-(

Two additional questions. Shall I file a bugreport for this issue? What would be the right words: please provide real ligature glyphs instead of composed ones?

there are many fonts out that that do similar things replacing f an i by different shapes, or overlaying, or kerning, or replacing by one char, looking forward (from f to i) or backward (from i to f) ... as all is technically possible/permitted nothing is a bug (but there might be occasional differences between hyphenation although quite some effort went into getting that kind of right ... and it makes a good topic for complex hard to follow boring presentations (see attachment) (btw, sometimes glyphs get funny non standard names in which case roundtrip copy/paste becomes a mess)

EB Garamond is a free font also in the sense free of charge. But what can I expect when I buy a commercial font? I would be quite annoyed when I buy a font which does not provide the features in a way that I can use them in ConTeXt.

you can expect the same ... in fact you can also expect type1 -> otf converted fonts with hardly any use of opentype features

Is there a font quality page on the Wiki with a feature comparison?

that would be nice (has been discussed) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------