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Jesse Alama

23 Feb 2008 23 Feb '08

3:03 a.m.

I tried switching to nice old-style numerals for a table of contents, and found to my chagrin that the periods in the numbers, such as the "." in "2.3", get typeset as triangles. You can see the result (verified on the live context in the garden) with \starttext {\os 2.3} \stoptext What's going on? How can I get periods rather than triangles? Thanks, Jesse -- Jesse Alama (alama@stanford.edu)

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Idris Samawi Hamid

23 Feb 23 Feb

5:06 a.m.

Hi, On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:03:12 -0700, Jesse Alama wrote:

I tried switching to nice old-style numerals for a table of contents, and found to my chagrin that the periods in the numbers, such as the "." in "2.3", get typeset as triangles. You can see the result (verified on the live context in the garden) with

\starttext {\os 2.3} \stoptext

What's going on? How can I get periods rather than triangles?

If you are using pdfTeX, you have to switch to an encoding that uses oldstyle numerals. This is because the knuthian font with oldstyle is a special, not general purpose, font, and has triangles where the period would be etc. You have to activate oldstyle globally for any but the most narrow purposes. Something like the following \usetypescript[modern-base][texnansi] % a simplified latin-modern typescript \usetypescript [map] [latin-modern-os] [texnansi] \setupbodyfont[reset] \setupbodyfont[modern,11pt] used to work in mkii (pdftex + context) but I don't know if it still does -- mkii support for oldstyle has not been a stable feature (due to the changes from cm to lm): I had to recalibrate every couple of years or so. So try and see. If you use luatex then there are a couple of ways to activate it -- see this thread http://archive.contextgarden.net/thread/20080102.025610.93a30bce.en.html#200... http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080102.025610.93a30bce.en.html ========================================== % engine=luatex \definefontfeature [oldstyle] [mode=node,language=dflt,script=latn,onum=yes,tnum=yes] \setfontfeature{oldstyle} \starttext 1234567890 \stoptext ========================================== Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

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Jesse Alama

28 Feb 28 Feb

12:29 a.m.

"Idris Samawi Hamid" writes:

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:03:12 -0700, Jesse Alama wrote:

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I tried switching to nice old-style numerals for a table of contents, and found to my chagrin that the periods in the numbers, such as the "." in "2.3", get typeset as triangles. You can see the result (verified on the live context in the garden) with

\starttext {\os 2.3} \stoptext

What's going on? How can I get periods rather than triangles?

If you are using pdfTeX, you have to switch to an encoding that uses oldstyle numerals. This is because the knuthian font with oldstyle is a special, not general purpose, font, and has triangles where the period would be etc. You have to activate oldstyle globally for any but the most narrow purposes.

Something like the following

\usetypescript[modern-base][texnansi] % a simplified latin-modern typescript \usetypescript [map] [latin-modern-os] [texnansi] \setupbodyfont[reset] \setupbodyfont[modern,11pt]

used to work in mkii (pdftex + context) but I don't know if it still does -- mkii support for oldstyle has not been a stable feature (due to the changes from cm to lm): I had to recalibrate every couple of years or so. So try and see.

It looks like this is more complicated than I thought. What would I do if I wanted old-style numerals just for a table of contents? Currently, my table of contents is set up like so: \setupcombinedlist[content][alternative=c,numberstyle={\os},pagestyle={\os}] This produces the triangles for periods, and I think I understand why that is so. What value should go in for the numberstyle key to enable old-style numerals just for the table of contents? Thanks, Jesse -- Jesse Alama (alama@stanford.edu)

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Idris Samawi Hamid

1:37 a.m.

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:29:42 -0700, Jesse Alama wrote:

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Something like the following

\usetypescript[modern-base][texnansi] % a simplified latin-modern typescript \usetypescript [map] [latin-modern-os] [texnansi] \setupbodyfont[reset] \setupbodyfont[modern,11pt]

used to work in mkii (pdftex + context) but I don't know if it still does -- mkii support for oldstyle has not been a stable feature (due to the changes from cm to lm): I had to recalibrate every couple of years or so. So try and see.

It looks like this is more complicated than I thought. What would I do if I wanted old-style numerals just for a table of contents? Currently, my table of contents is set up like so:

\setupcombinedlist[content][alternative=c,numberstyle={\os},pagestyle={\os}]

This produces the triangles for periods, and I think I understand why that is so. What value should go in for the numberstyle key to enable old-style numerals just for the table of contents?

In that case you'll have to switch fonts for the TOC. So you still need to have a font setup that supports os, then switch to that font for the TOC. For example, if you can define a latin modern typeface that uses the oldstyle numerals, then \switchtotypeface[my-lm] in your TOC setup. As I mentioned before I'm not sure what the present protocol is for setting up an oldstyle LM typeface in mkii. Basically you want something like %% THIS IS ONLY AN ILLUSTRATION!!! \starttypescript [LModern-OS] \definebodyfontenvironment [lmodern-os] [default] [interlinespace=2.8ex] \definetypeface [lmodern-os] [rm] [serif] [lmodern-os] [latin-modern-os] [texnansi] \stoptypescript %% THIS IS ONLY AN ILLUSTRATION!!! but maybe someone on the list knows the exact protocol. Then you can do \usetypescript[LModern-OS] in your preamble and \switchtotypeface[lmodern-os] where you need it. Once the final move to mkiv is made this will all be much easier... Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

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Hans Hagen

24 Feb 24 Feb

8:15 p.m.

Jesse Alama wrote:

I tried switching to nice old-style numerals for a table of contents, and found to my chagrin that the periods in the numbers, such as the "." in "2.3", get typeset as triangles. You can see the result (verified on the live context in the garden) with

\starttext {\os 2.3} \stoptext

What's going on? How can I get periods rather than triangles?

use a real font instead of picking up oldstyle numerals from a math font ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

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