2008/4/11, luigi scarso :

xps ?

http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/pdftex/2007-April/007112.html Best Martin

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:34 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

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at some point i will redo the backends, but i wonder if it really makes sense to support dvi any longer; i'd rather prepare for future formats xps ?

Do you plan some support for the ebooks formats (epub, mobipocket) ? Cheers, Olivier. -- [Message tapé sur un clavier Bépo : http://www.clavier-dvorak.org ] Olivier nemolivier@gmail.com http://nemolivier.blogspot.com

Olivier Guéry wrote:

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:34 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

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at some point i will redo the backends, but i wonder if it really makes sense to support dvi any longer; i'd rather prepare for future formats xps ?

Do you plan some support for the ebooks formats (epub, mobipocket) ?

it depends, we have one here and it's slow and the screen is already degrading (although the quality is not that bad); it's a matter of paper sizes and margins, so that can already be done; hyperlinks are suppoorted too, but normally very slow on such devices; one problem is that they use part of the screen for buttons and such which kind of conflicts with stand alone documents that have their own interface; Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

luigi scarso wrote:

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at some point i will redo the backends, but i wonder if it really makes sense to support dvi any longer; i'd rather prepare for future formats xps ?

mars ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

luigi scarso wrote:

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

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luigi scarso wrote:

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at some point i will redo the backends, but i wonder if it really makes sense to support dvi any longer; i'd rather prepare for future formats xps ?

mars A very nice subject to discuss here at pdf/a conference with Leonard Rosenthal (why use a pdf format for archiving, and in the same moment push mars? mars can be XML->PDF->XML) But I did'nt want to do that. I have talkd last year in italy with Olaf Drümmer, he said the mars is still an experiment . From my point of view xml is better for long term archiving.

xml is to bulky for an output format (apart from the slower parsing), so i wonder if it is that good as format for final products; of course xml may be handier to manipulate afterwards (which is something we somethines need to do with third party inclusions) but that can be crippled by encriptions, compression etc; in my opinion xml should be readable and this somewhat conflicts with compression and binary chunks (fonts) and encryption etc .. in that case one gets angle brackets instead of objects and the rest stays the same (a bit comparable with svg, which just packages huge amounts of path info in attributes (kind of rediculous to use attributes for that); xml is nice, but nor for everything we'll see Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

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Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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Hi,

is it possible to produce DVI files with Mark IV.

I tried a simple file like

\starttext text \stoptext

with the command texexec --lua --backend=dvipdfm filename

no, at quite some places i've hardcoded a pdftex backend

at some point i will redo the backends, but i wonder if it really makes sense to support dvi any longer; i'd rather prepare for future formats

Hello Wolfgang (and others),

I don't know if anyone has noticed it, but XeTeX "doesn't support" dvi format either. It can create some intermediate format (xdv), but it's rather useless - I don't know any software that can work with it. And even if LuaTeX would support dvi, you still need to write support for fonts in DVI previewers. (DVI=DeVice Independent - something that would definitely not be true any more with OpenType fonts; or rather - is not even true any more at this moment with dozens of PS specials)

Hi Mojca, I know xdv is only a intermediate format in XeTeX and xdv2pdf and xdvipdfmx are able to convert it into PDF format. I used always only the pdftex backend for ConTeXt and used dvi only to play with a few macro files where I needed it because they used PostScript to draw lines ... I have also no dvi viewer on my system and I'm inable to take a look at the output in dvi format. I tried to play only a little bit with MkIV and dvi but I never wanted to use it in real live, I tried only something what is at the moment only possible with dvi output. Wolfgang