On 13 jan 2010, at 11:55, luigi scarso wrote:

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Hans van der Meer

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wrote: I would like to include a file with spaces in its name. Clearly it does not work using: \input /Users/me/dir with spaces/file I can use something like: \def\DataDirectory#1{\def\DATADIRECTORY{#1/}} % in reality coping with empty #1 \DataDirectory{/Users/me/dir with spaces} \def\Input#1{\input "\DATADIRECTORY#1"} and then that file is read. When however I want to set this directory with \setupexternalfigures[directory=\DATADIRECTORY] it does not find the picture file there.

How can I accomplish the setup? Do I miss something? Using contextbeta, if that makes a difference.

Hans van der Meer

what about \setupexternalfigures[directory={\DATADIRECTORY}] ?

Tried it but NO. That didn't work. Without a space in the directory name I can find the picture. But as soon as a space gets in the directory name then the picture file is not found. Hans van der Meer.

Am 13.01.2010 um 12:26 schrieb Hans van der Meer:

\DataDirectory{/Users/hans/Movies/Inlays/Muziek/MadisonSquare Garden} % defs \DATADIRECTORY \setupexternalfigures[directory={"\DATADIRECTORY"}]

Why don't you save the pictures in a subdirectory of your document. Wolfgang

Am 13.01.2010 um 12:38 schrieb Hans van der Meer:

I did grep for the definition of \setupexternalfigures but could not find it in the sources. Where is it? Perhaps I can spot the difficulty there. Or, it might be in the use that /externalfigure makes of it. Please point to the definitions of both, that I can have a look.

grph-fig.mkiv -> \setupexternalfigures grph-inc.mkiv -> \setfigurepathlist grph-inc.lua -> figures.setpaths Wolfgang

On 13-1-2010 17:30, Hans van der Meer wrote:

On 13 jan 2010, at 16:35, Otared Kavian wrote:

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Hi Hans,

The following works for me both with mkii and mkiv (running Mac OS X 10.6.2).

Yes, I knew that. Adding the full path inside the \externalfigure works. But I would like to access picture files by separately adressing directory and filename, not combining them explicitely. \setupexternalfigures[directory=..] was made for this. The annoying thing is that \setupexternalfigures and \externalfigure apparently do not work seamlessly together.

well, it's not deliberately .. just that i never use paths with spaces in tex workflows so it never got tested in grph-inc.lua patch the gmatch pattern: if h[iv["global"]] then for s in gmatch(pathlist,",* *([^,]+)") do if not table.contains(t,s) then t[#t+1] = s end end end ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

I just became aware of the fact that a comma in a directory name like "dir, so-and-so" is failing too. No doubt there will be others that are allowed in those names but resist \setupexternalfigures. I guess I will have to live with that. Though Hans might feel tempted to sort it out once and for all..... Hans van der Meer On 13 jan 2010, at 20:34, Hans van der Meer wrote:

Thanks Hans. That does the trick.

Odd by the way, that so many people apparently refrain from using spaces in directory and file names, because this did not surface earlier. It can make things a lot more readable. The habit of avoiding spaces is probably a holdover from old times where OS's were much more restrictive in filenaming. I reckon the next beta will contain this patch, so that I don't have to go through patching hassles when installing a new version.

On 13 jan 2010, at 18:59, Hans Hagen wrote:

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On 13-1-2010 17:30, Hans van der Meer wrote:

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On 13 jan 2010, at 16:35, Otared Kavian wrote:

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Hi Hans,

The following works for me both with mkii and mkiv (running Mac OS X 10.6.2).

Yes, I knew that. Adding the full path inside the \externalfigure works. But I would like to access picture files by separately adressing directory and filename, not combining them explicitely. \setupexternalfigures[directory=..] was made for this. The annoying thing is that \setupexternalfigures and \externalfigure apparently do not work seamlessly together.

well, it's not deliberately .. just that i never use paths with spaces in tex workflows so it never got tested

in grph-inc.lua patch the gmatch pattern:

if h[iv["global"]] then for s in gmatch(pathlist,",* *([^,]+)") do if not table.contains(t,s) then t[#t+1] = s end end end

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Dear all, after a long break I am returning to two larger projects of mine, and to celebrate, I upgraded to ConTeXt from the current TeXLive. To my surprise, mostly everything looks as before (which is good), but all my text backgrounds are gone. A little search brought up Wolf-gang's example (from 1-20 2009) \setupcolors[state=start] \definetextbackground [example] [location=paragraph, background=color, backgroundcolor=middlegray, frame=off] \starttext \input knuth \startexample \dorecurse{4}{\input knuth\par} \stopexample \input knuth \stoptext which doesn't produce any backgrounds - neither on my installation, nor at ConTeXt live. What is the current way to produce backgrounds around text snippets? I'll need/want it framed with rounded corners eventually, too. Thanks!

Hi Mathias, I tested your sample-code with the minimals This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.50.0-2009122422 ConTeXt ver: 2010.01.11 14:57 MKIV fmt: 2010.1.11 int: english/ english The outcome is to my knowledge correct See attachment. Kind regards Willi On Jan 14, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Matthias Weber wrote:

More precisely, what formerly worked (with my 2008 installation, and it still works when I switch back) is the following minimized setup. The frame and the background are gone :(, the red text is there.

Matthias

\setupcolors[state=start]

\definecolor[defc][r=.9,g=.9,b=.94]

\definetextbackground [defbackground] [background=color, backgroundcolor=defc, align=right, frame=on, corner=round, before=\blank, after=\blank, leftoffset=5pt, rightoffset=5pt, topoffset=5pt, bottomoffset=5pt, framecolor=darkred, location=paragraph, color=darkred]

\defineenumeration [definition] [before={\starttextbackground[defbackground]}, after={\stoptextbackground}, text=Definition, way=bysection, location=hanging, letter=rm]

\starttext

\startdefinition \input knuth \stopdefinition

\input knuth

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On Thu, 14 Jan 2010, Matthias Weber wrote:

Thanks, that is what I want to see. So ConTeXt live is broken as well as TeXlive 2009?

No. Both are (understandably) slightly paranoid, and disable \write18 by default. Either enable write18 in Texlive (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/write18) or add \runMPgraphicsfalse on top of your file. Aditya

Dear All, I just notice another discrepancy between 2009 and earlier ConTeXt: I organize my project in folders/subfolders according to chapters/ sections, and each section folder contains the files needed for that section: the ConTeXt source, images, and helper files etc. Now it happens so that some images in different directories have the same name. In my ConTeXt (2009), only the first image is loaded and used instead of the local one (which is explicitly referenced with the correct path). I can clearly rename all file names to become unique, but it strikes me as a little odd. Matthias

Dear all, I made a minimal sample project illustrating the issue. Note that the figures in the two folders are different, and individually referenced by the two TeX files in the folders, but come out as the same image. In older versions of ConTeX (before 2007) the different figures were used. So far I have been using the TeXlive distributions (on a Mac) and shied away from the minimals. I am not a terminal person, and while I can use it, I do it rarely and forget instantly what I did. I am just trying to update to something more recent than the last 2008 TeXlive distribution and get my old projects to look similar to what they looked a few years back. If you tell me I have to use the minimals for that, well, I'll give it a shot. Matthias On Jan 14, 2010, at 5:36 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 14-1-2010 22:48, Matthias Weber wrote:

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Dear All,

I just notice another discrepancy between 2009 and earlier ConTeXt:

I organize my project in folders/subfolders according to chapters/sections, and each section folder contains the files needed for that section: the ConTeXt source, images, and helper files etc.

Now it happens so that some images in different directories have the same name. In my ConTeXt (2009), only the first image is loaded and used instead of the local one (which is explicitly referenced with the correct path). I can clearly rename all file names to become unique, but it strikes me as a little odd.

what do you mean with 2009? a recent beta?

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On 15-1-2010 16:26, Matthias Weber wrote:

Dear all,

after (finally) installing the minimals, the zip with the figures TeXs as expected with MKII and MKIV.

Now, in MKIV I notice another issue. I use the \hideblocks mechanism to hide and reuse answers and get an error message (Undefined control sequence) in MKIV while everything is fine in MKII. I am attaching a sample file.

there are two issues: \defineblock[exercise,solution] i want to get away from the multiple definitions (for the moment i enabled it again in the upcoming beta) but the following should work in your case \defineblock[solution] \defineblock[exercise] next, delete the tuc file and use the start/stop commands \beginsolution \startsolution Solution one. \stopsolution \endsolution \solution is ok but looks for a \par as delimiter so using the \start... \stop... variant is better Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Dear all, what's the best way to use calligraphic letters in LuaTeX? I am used to \starttext \calligraphic{H} \stoptext which doesn't work in Mark IV (undefined control sequence). Thanks, Matthias

Yes indeed, I need this just for math. So do I really need to grab some font that has calligraphic , write/ use a typescript, and then write $text{\calligraphic H}$ or is there a simpler way that works out of the box? Sorry for asking these simple questions, I just haven't started looking into fonts yet... Matthias Weber On Jan 22, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 22-1-2010 16:55, Matthias Weber wrote:

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Dear all,

what's the best way to use calligraphic letters in LuaTeX?

I am used to

\starttext \calligraphic{H} \stoptext

which doesn't work in Mark IV (undefined control sequence).

that was actually something math

in mkiv you have to define a caligraphic font

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Thanks! Matthias On Jan 22, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Am 22.01.10 18:49, schrieb Matthias Weber:

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Yes indeed, I need this just for math. So do I really need to grab some font that has calligraphic , write/ use a typescript, and then write $text{\calligraphic H}$ or is there a simpler way that works out of the box?

$H{\cal H}$

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On 22-1-2010 19:20, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

\unexpanded\def\calligraphic{\ifmmode\expandafter\mathscript \fi}

to math-ini.mkiv?

probably something \unexpanded\def\calligraphic{\groupedcommand{... then but lets see what aditya thinks of it ... Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 20:46:53 +0100, Hans van der Meer wrote:

I just became aware of the fact that a comma in a directory name like "dir, so-and-so" is failing too. No doubt there will be others that are allowed in those names but resist \setupexternalfigures. I guess I will have to live with that. Though Hans might feel tempted to sort it out once and for all.....

Just small note: in POSIX (e.g. Linux) you could use any char in file or directory name expect '/' and '\0'. Windows is more restricted (why nowadays?) on char in file and directory names (not ':' for example). Now imagine what should developers do in order to maintain software for these different (in sense of names) systems? (My guess: use only plain names: only latin letters and underscope is sufficient). -- Boys, you have ALL been selected to LEAVE th' PLANET in 15 minutes!!

On 13-1-2010 20:59, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

On Jan 13, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Hans van der Meer wrote:

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Odd by the way, that so many people apparently refrain from using spaces in directory and file names, because this did not surface earlier. It can make things a lot more readable. The habit of avoiding spaces is probably a holdover from old times where OS's were much more restrictive in filenaming.

I prefer to work with my computer, not against it. Whenever you want to script something or do something remotely, spaces in file names give you nothing but grief. And I don't think "My Stuff" is so much more readable than "My-Stuff" or "My_Stuff" or ... But to each their own, I guess, if you think that spaces in filenames are so 2010 and avoiding them old hat.

also, as nowadays guis can use proportional fonts, it's easy to oversee two spaces in a row which makes debugging a pain esp when we get graphics from third parties we need to be pretty aware of inconsistency in - upper/lowercase (and mixed) - suffixes - multiple spaces - underscores vs hyphens the problem being that in gui apps one just clicks on a (potentially messy) name but in automated flows one needs to be exact. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------