I am running the ConTeXt Minimals of 11/10 and am trying to access Times New Roman using the script \usetypescript [timesnewroman][ec] \definetypeface[timesnewroman][rm][serif][timesnewroman][default] [encoding=ec] \definebodyfont[9pt,11pt][rm][default] \setupbodyfont[timesnewroman,rm,11pt] I am not sure what I getting and I am puzzled by the log file , hence, my question: Is Times New Roman distributed with the minimals and is this the way to access it? Thanks for any help or suggestions. Alan
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
I am running the ConTeXt Minimals of 11/10 and am trying to access Times New Roman using the script
\usetypescript [timesnewroman][ec] \definetypeface[timesnewroman][rm][serif][timesnewroman][default] [encoding=ec] \definebodyfont[9pt,11pt][rm][default] \setupbodyfont[timesnewroman,rm,11pt]
I am not sure what I getting and I am puzzled by the log file , hence, my question: Is Times New Roman distributed with the minimals and is this the way to access it?
Hello Alan, Do you need "something-like-times" or Times New Roman? This works: % possibly \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr] \usetypescript[times][ec] \setupbodyfont[times,12pt] It will give you times-like typeface (TeX Gyre Termes), but not Times New Roman. Times New Roman is not distributied (and possibly copyrighted). Mojca
Hi, Mojca! Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin Modern instead but wanted to be sure. Termes sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is apaprently no longer a typesetting problem. Again, thanks for your help. Alan On Dec 1, 2008, at 09;04,49 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
I am running the ConTeXt Minimals of 11/10 and am trying to access Times New Roman using the script
\usetypescript [timesnewroman][ec] \definetypeface[timesnewroman][rm][serif][timesnewroman][default] [encoding=ec] \definebodyfont[9pt,11pt][rm][default] \setupbodyfont[timesnewroman,rm,11pt]
I am not sure what I getting and I am puzzled by the log file , hence, my question: Is Times New Roman distributed with the minimals and is this the way to access it?
Hello Alan,
Do you need "something-like-times" or Times New Roman?
This works: % possibly \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr] \usetypescript[times][ec] \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
It will give you times-like typeface (TeX Gyre Termes), but not Times New Roman. Times New Roman is not distributied (and possibly copyrighted).
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Termes is a TeX Gyre version of Times Roman (almost the same glyphs).
Times New Roman is a Microsoft version of Times Roman.
Times New Roman is more illegible than Times Roman.
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Alan Bowen
Hi, Mojca!
Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin Modern instead but wanted to be sure.
Termes sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is apaprently no longer a typesetting problem.
Again, thanks for your help.
Alan
On Dec 1, 2008, at 09;04,49 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
I am running the ConTeXt Minimals of 11/10 and am trying to access Times New Roman using the script
\usetypescript [timesnewroman][ec] \definetypeface[timesnewroman][rm][serif][timesnewroman][default] [encoding=ec] \definebodyfont[9pt,11pt][rm][default] \setupbodyfont[timesnewroman,rm,11pt]
I am not sure what I getting and I am puzzled by the log file , hence, my question: Is Times New Roman distributed with the minimals and is this the way to access it?
Hello Alan,
Do you need "something-like-times" or Times New Roman?
This works: % possibly \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr] \usetypescript[times][ec] \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
It will give you times-like typeface (TeX Gyre Termes), but not Times New Roman. Times New Roman is not distributied (and possibly copyrighted).
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That is good to know, I will use it in talking with the publisher. Many thanks. Alan On Dec 1, 2008, at 09;28,08 , Yue Wang wrote:
Termes is a TeX Gyre version of Times Roman (almost the same glyphs). Times New Roman is a Microsoft version of Times Roman. Times New Roman is more illegible than Times Roman.
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Alan Bowen
wrote: Hi, Mojca!
Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin Modern instead but wanted to be sure.
Termes sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is apaprently no longer a typesetting problem.
Again, thanks for your help.
Alan
On Dec 1, 2008, at 09;04,49 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
I am running the ConTeXt Minimals of 11/10 and am trying to access Times New Roman using the script
\usetypescript [timesnewroman][ec] \definetypeface[timesnewroman][rm][serif][timesnewroman][default] [encoding=ec] \definebodyfont[9pt,11pt][rm][default] \setupbodyfont[timesnewroman,rm,11pt]
I am not sure what I getting and I am puzzled by the log file , hence, my question: Is Times New Roman distributed with the minimals and is this the way to access it?
Hello Alan,
Do you need "something-like-times" or Times New Roman?
This works: % possibly \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr] \usetypescript[times][ec] \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
It will give you times-like typeface (TeX Gyre Termes), but not Times New Roman. Times New Roman is not distributied (and possibly copyrighted).
Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
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On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Yue Wang wrote:
Termes is a TeX Gyre version of Times Roman (almost the same glyphs).
Which stems from URW Nimbus, a clone of Linotype version of Times Roman.
Times New Roman is a Microsoft version of Times Roman.
Actually, TNR is the Monotype version of the typeface, licensed by Microsoft, but with widths adjusted to match Times Roman, which was a Linotype typeface. To make matters more fun, Apple licensed its version from Linotype. And for cosmic revenge, Monotype bought Linotype, so there's just one company now.
Times New Roman is more illegible than Times Roman.
The only design differences are minimal. The serifs of C and S, for example, are more vertical in the Monotype version, and the italic z is more calligraphic in the Linotype version, but in large part, the two versions are identical. Personally, for book text, I think you ought to use Times Ten, which is designed for that. Both Times Roman and Times New Roman were originally designed as newspapers typefaces to be set on very short measures and are therefore too narrow for book use. Steve
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
Hi, Mojca!
Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin Modern instead but wanted to be sure.
Termes sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is apaprently no longer a typesetting problem.
It definitely makes sense to ask him, but most people (including me) do not notice the difference at all. Even if you need exactly Times New Roman, it should not be too difficult to change, but you can ask the publisher where to get the math glyphs in case he insists :) :) :) Mojca
Am 01.12.2008 um 16:13 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
Hi, Mojca!
Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin Modern instead but wanted to be sure.
Termes sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is apaprently no longer a typesetting problem.
It definitely makes sense to ask him, but most people (including me) do not notice the difference at all.
You could try to find the differences in my example.
Even if you need exactly Times New Roman, it should not be too difficult to change, but you can ask the publisher where to get the math glyphs in case he insists :) :) :)
??? Wolfgang
Fantastic, Wolfgang! An image is worth 1000 words. Many thanks for the visual support. Alan On Dec 1, 2008, at 12;38,41 , Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 01.12.2008 um 16:13 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
Hi, Mojca!
Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin Modern instead but wanted to be sure.
Termes sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is apaprently no longer a typesetting problem.
It definitely makes sense to ask him, but most people (including me) do not notice the difference at all.
You could try to find the differences in my example.
Even if you need exactly Times New Roman, it should not be too difficult to change, but you can ask the publisher where to get the math glyphs in case he insists :) :) :)
???
Wolfgang
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Alan Bowen
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Mojca Miklavec
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Steve Peter
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Wolfgang Schuster
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Yue Wang