On 19 Jul 2021, at 09:56, Nicola wrote:

On 2021-07-18, Gerben Wierda wrote:

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PS. switching \kap and \bf has an interesting result, the first character of the words is not in bold. This did not happen with lettrine in mkii

I do not have an answer to your question, but I'd like to point out that you can keep using lettrine with ConTeXt LMTX, if you wish. You just need to add the modules manually, currently:

https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules#ConTeXt_LMTX

I’ve tried this. Installed the modules and then I get with \definemeasure[CAindent][12pt] \setupindenting[yes,\measure{CAindent}] % Every chapter body text starts with a drop cap: \usemodule[lettrine] \setuplettrine[Lines=3, Hang=.5, Oversize=0, Raise=0, Findent=0pt, Nindent=0em, Slope=0em, Ante=, FontHook=, TextFont=\sc, Image=no] \starttext \lettrine{S}{\kap{\bf uppose we}} have a system for the approval of loans. \input knuth \stoptext Result: tex error > tex error on line 19 in file ./test.tex: Undefined control sequence <macro> \m_syst_parameter_n ... \the \LettrineHeight ] X}}\scratchcounter = \numexpr (100*\LettrineHeight )/(\ht \Lettrinetbox /100) - 9999\relax \ifnum \scratchcounter >0 \def \tempa {1.\the \scratchcounter }\else \def \tempa {1}\fi \LettrineFontHook \!!dimena = \tempa \Let... <macro> \dolettrine ...\Lettrinefindent =\LettrineFindent \relax \Lettrinelines =\LettrineLines \relax \setbox \Lettrinelbox \hbox {{\ifx \LettrineImage \v!yes \doLettrineEPS {#2}\else \ifx \LettrineImage \v!true \doLettrineEPS {#2}\else \doLettrineFont #2\fi \fi }}\... \lettrine{S}{\kap{\bf uppose we}} have a system for the approval of 9 Raise=0, 10 Findent=0pt, 11 Nindent=0em, 12 Slope=0em, 13 Ante=, 14 FontHook=, 15 TextFont=\sc, 16 Image=no] 17 18 \starttext 19 >> \lettrine{S}{\kap{\bf uppose we}} have a system for the approval of 20 loans. \input knuth 21 \stoptext 22 The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. You can just continue as I'll forget about whatever was undefined. mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 256 Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda) R&A Enterprise Architecture https://ea.rna.nl/ (main site) Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/ Book: Mastering ArchiMate https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/

Nicola

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On 21 Jul 2021, at 22:38, Nicola wrote:

On 2021-07-21, Gerben Wierda mailto:gerben.wierda@rna.nl> wrote:

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On 19 Jul 2021, at 09:56, Nicola wrote:

On 2021-07-18, Gerben Wierda wrote:

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PS. switching \kap and \bf has an interesting result, the first character of the words is not in bold. This did not happen with lettrine in mkii

I do not have an answer to your question, but I'd like to point out that you can keep using lettrine with ConTeXt LMTX, if you wish. You just need to add the modules manually, currently:

https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules#ConTeXt_LMTX

I’ve tried this. Installed the modules and then I get with

I was sure that I had used lettrine with MKIV in a document of mine, but after your reply I double checked that and, in fact, I was using lettrine only with MKII. On the plus side, I have recovered my settings for MKIV (which work with LMTX as well).

I think that the `distance` parameter of \setupinitials does what you want. Besides, if your font provides real small capitals, you may use \definefirstline.

This is how I set up things in one of my documents:

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality,onum=no,lnum=yes]

% \definefirstline below requires a font that implements small capitals as % a feature (Latin Modern does not). I have used this: % \definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][Sorts Mill Goudy] [ % tf=name:Sorts Mill Goudy Regular, % it=name:Sorts Mill Goudy Italic, % ] % If you don't have the font above, try this: \setupbodyfont[heros]

\setupbodyfont[mainfont,11pt]

\definemeasure[CAindent][12pt] \setupindenting[yes,\measure{CAindent}]

% Every chapter body text starts with a drop cap: \defineinitial[normal][ n=3, m=1, distance=18pt, %%%%%%%%% <== Add this %%%%%%%% state=start ]

% Special case: drop cap starting with a quote \defineinitial[quote][ n=3, m=2, distance=13pt, hoffset=5pt, % Move drop cap a bit to the left method=none ]

% Some initials may need special adjustments, depending on the font \defineinitial[Q][ voffset=2\lineheight, n=3, m=1, distance=18pt, state=start ]

% Full first line in small caps \definefirstline[smallcapsfirstline][ alternative=line, style=smallcaps, ]

% First n words in small caps (three in this case) \definefirstline[smallcapsfirstlinethree][ alternative=word, n=3, style=smallcaps, ]

\starttext \setfirstline[smallcapsfirstlinethree] \setinitial[normal] Suppose we have a system for the approval of loans. \input knuth \blank[2*big]

\setfirstline[smallcapsfirstline] \setinitial[quote] “Suppose we have a system for the approval of loans.” \input knuth \blank[2*big]

\setfirstline[smallcapsfirstline] \setinitial[Q] Quo usque tandem abutere, Catilina, patientia nostra? quam diu etiam furor iste tuus nos1 eludet? quem ad finem sese effrenata iactabit audacia?

\stoptext %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

I hope this will give you some ideas!

References:

https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupinitial https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupinitial https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definefirstline https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definefirstline https://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Sorts-Mill-Goudy https://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Sorts-Mill-Goudy

Nicola

Hi Nicola, Thanks. This solves the indentation of the initial itself. What remains is the indentation of the text immediately after, e.g. the 'uppose we’. Minimum example (also visible in your example): %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % This combination of indenting and initial does not work properly, the text following the initial should be unindented \definemeasure[CAindent][12pt] \setupindenting[yes,\measure{CAindent}] % Every chapter body text starts with a drop cap: \defineinitial[normal][n=3,m=1,hoffset=\measure{CAindent},state=start] \starttext \setinitial[normal] S {\bf{\kap uppose we}} have a system for the approval of loans. \input knuth \stoptext %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% The ‘uppose we’ should not be indented more than the lines directly below. I’ve tried everything, e.g. trying some sort of noindent but so far without success. Setting indenting to ‘next', for instance, increases the indenting of that first line after the initial. I’ve found the solution, though: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \definemeasure[CAindent][12pt] \setupindenting[yes,\measure{CAindent}] \setupinitial[n=3,m=1] \starttext \setupindenting[next] \placeinitial S {\bf{\kap uppose we}} have a system for the approval of loans. \input knuth \stoptext %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% What was required is an explicit \setupindenting[next] before the \placeinitial. After that, the standard setting without tweaking work. G

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