Dear ConTeXt-users, I'm trying to typeset a small book using ConTeXt (TeXLive 2004), and use the following setup: \setupbodyfont[rm,12pt] \definepapersize[BOOK][width=140mm,height=210mm] \setuppapersize[BOOK][A4] \setuplayout[ [topspace=24mm, header=8mm, headerdistance=10mm, backspace=19.5mm, leftmargin=15.5mm, rightmargin=23mm, footerdistance=5mm, footer=4mm, height=fit, width=fit, marking=on, location=middle] Page breaks are usually calculated automatically by TeX, but I notice that in my case they turn out to be very bad. A lot of pages are involved, so I wonder how this can be improved? Sometimes even 3 lines could be added without any difficulty to a page by TeX before inserting a page break! I've tried to use \adaptlayout but it doesn't seem to work, no effect! Has it perhaps something to do with the setup I use? Regards, Geert -- Geert C.H.M. Verhaag St. Jorisstraat 29 5954 AN Beesel NETHERLANDS Tel.: (+31)-774742493, E-mail: verhaaggchm@ision.nl
G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
Dear ConTeXt-users,
I'm trying to typeset a small book using ConTeXt (TeXLive 2004), and use the following setup:
\setupbodyfont[rm,12pt]
\definepapersize[BOOK][width=140mm,height=210mm]
\setuppapersize[BOOK][A4] \setuplayout[ [topspace=24mm, header=8mm, headerdistance=10mm, backspace=19.5mm, leftmargin=15.5mm, rightmargin=23mm, footerdistance=5mm, footer=4mm, height=fit, width=fit, marking=on, location=middle]
Page breaks are usually calculated automatically by TeX, but I notice that in my case they turn out to be very bad. A lot of pages are involved, so I wonder how this can be improved? Sometimes even 3 lines could be added without any difficulty to a page by TeX before inserting a page break!
I've tried to use \adaptlayout but it doesn't seem to work, no effect!
Has it perhaps something to do with the setup I use?
no, more with the default penalties, compare: (for adam: take a look at core-spa, the default setups in there may answer a few of the questions in your postings) \starttext \startsetups [test] \resetpenalties\widowpenalties \resetpenalties\clubpenalties \resetpenalties\interlinepenalties \stopsetups \startsetups [test] \nopenalties \stopsetups \setuplayout[lines=25,setups=test] \showframe \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte \endgraf} \stoptext ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
h h extern wrote:
..... no, more with the default penalties, compare:
(for adam: take a look at core-spa, the default setups in there may answer a few of the questions in your postings)
\starttext
\startsetups [test] \resetpenalties\widowpenalties \resetpenalties\clubpenalties \resetpenalties\interlinepenalties \stopsetups
I suppose this is another test setup!
\startsetups [test] \nopenalties \stopsetups
Sorry, but I keep struggling with the bad page breaks! I've tried both suggested setups, but my document (approx. 80 pages) hardly improved, despite the fact that it only deals with a few figures! I want all pages to be of the same length, one missing line is allowed but no more! It's not a ConTeXt problem I suppose, so switching to LaTeX won't solve the problem! Do you've any suggestions for further reading regarding these various penalties? Regards, Geert -- Geert C.H.M. Verhaag St. Jorisstraat 29 5954 AN Beesel NETHERLANDS Tel.: (+31)-774742493, E-mail: verhaaggchm@ision.nl
G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
h h extern wrote:
..... no, more with the default penalties, compare:
(for adam: take a look at core-spa, the default setups in there may answer a few of the questions in your postings)
\starttext
\startsetups [test] \resetpenalties\widowpenalties \resetpenalties\clubpenalties \resetpenalties\interlinepenalties \stopsetups
I suppose this is another test setup!
\startsetups [test] \nopenalties \stopsetups
Sorry, but I keep struggling with the bad page breaks! I've tried both suggested setups, but my document (approx. 80 pages) hardly improved, despite the fact that it only deals with a few figures!
I want all pages to be of the same length, one missing line is allowed but no more!
It's not a ConTeXt problem I suppose, so switching to LaTeX won't solve the problem! Do you've any suggestions for further reading regarding these various penalties?
did you try: \widowpenalty=0 \clubpenalty=0 Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hans Hagen wrote: ......
did you try:
\widowpenalty=0 \clubpenalty=0
Sorry, for the somewhat delayed response! I tried these penalty settings but they seem to have not effect at all! The only way out is probably rearranging several paragraphs. However I find it strange that I can't influence this page breaking at all! Geert -- Geert C.H.M. Verhaag St. Jorisstraat 29 5954 AN Beesel NETHERLANDS Tel.: (+31)-774742493, E-mail: verhaaggchm@ision.nl
G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
Hans Hagen wrote:
......
did you try:
\widowpenalty=0 \clubpenalty=0
Sorry, for the somewhat delayed response!
I tried these penalty settings but they seem to have not effect at all! The only way out is probably rearranging several paragraphs.
However I find it strange that I can't influence this page breaking at all!
can you make a small sample file that you would like to see different? Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
h h extern wrote:
can you make a small sample file that you would like to see different?
Sorry, but I find that a bit to cumbersome to do at the moment! The layout of another book I'm trying to prepare using ConTeXt appears perfect, pages stay the same length, a very pleasing look! But this time the book contains only simple paragraphs and no figures at all. Thanks! Geert -- Geert C.H.M. Verhaag St. Jorisstraat 29 5954 AN Beesel NETHERLANDS Tel.: (+31)-774742493, E-mail: verhaaggchm@ision.nl
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