… \replaceword should be the correct way for proper hyphenation?? st.

Am 14.09.2022 um 08:35 schrieb Max Chernoff :

Hi Steffen,

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The idea is to set the hyphenation for certain words regardless of the language that is used in the surrounding paragraphs.

In this example it should stay: «steff-en»

How do i set this to all non-english paragraphs (without using \hyphenation on each language-switch)?

You can use \replaceword:

\starttext

\setuppapersize[A6][A6]

\mainlanguage[en]

\replaceword[hyphenations][steffen][steff{-}{}{}en] \setreplacements[hyphenations]

english text english text english teste: steffen steffen

\start\language[it] italian text italian text italian teste: steffen steffen \stop

\stoptext

-- Max

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Max Chernoff via ntg-context Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. September 2022 08:51 An: ntg-context@ntg.nl Cc: Max Chernoff ; context@st.estfiles.de Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation in multi-language projects

Hi Steffen,

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… \replaceword should be the correct way for proper hyphenation??

Well I'm not sure if it's "correct", but it seems to work. Based on my testing, having three subsequent sets of groups ({A}{B}{C}) is converted to a discretionary. The discretionary hyphen "\-" is equivalent to the Plain TeX command "\discretionary{-}{}{}", so

\replaceword[hyphenations][steffen][steff{-}{}{}en]

acts just like "steff\-en". TeX won't otherwise hyphenate a word with discretionaries, so this means that "steff-en" will be the only allowable hyphenation.

Just one caveat though. IIRC, Hans has mentioned that this kind of stuff is slower than using the hyphenation engine directly. (That's why he has reimplemented the ligature suppression mechanism on the hyphenation level, rather than acting on the node list.) Best, Denis

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. September 2022 16:45 An: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Steffen Wolfrum ; Hans Hagen Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation in multi-language projects

Isn’t there a way to list exceptions that will work in *all* languages?

I thought that \hyphenation would work like that, or \startexceptions without a language code. Apparently that's not the case. Denis

On 9/14/22 16:54, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:

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[...] Isn’t there a way to list exceptions that will work in *all* languages?

I thought that \hyphenation would work like that, or \startexceptions without a language code. Apparently that's not the case.

\hyphenation only works for the given language: \hyphenation{macOS} \starttext \startTEXpage[offset=1em] \currentlanguage: \hyphenatedword{macOS} \startlanguage[fr] \currentlanguage: \hyphenatedword{macOS} \stoplanguage \stopTEXpage \stoptext But I’d say that \registerhyphenationexception[macOS] was language-independent for me some time ago. (Now it seems to work like \hyphenation.) In any case, \registerhyphenationexception seems to have issues with ligatures: \setuphyphenation[method=traditional] \registerhyphenationexception[steff-en macOS] \registerhyphenationexception[it][steff-en macOS] \starttext \startTEXpage[offset=1em] \currentlanguage: \hyphenatedword{steffen macOS} \startlanguage[it] \currentlanguage: \hyphenatedword{steffen macOS} \stoplanguage \stopTEXpage \stoptext If there isn’t a command to add language-indepented hyphenation exceptions or patterns, one for proper names (for people, products or companies) would be really useful. Just in case Hans or other wizard may take a look at this, Pablo

On 10/24/2022 3:08 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

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On 9/14/22 16:54, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:

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[...] Isn’t there a way to list exceptions that will work in *all* languages?

I thought that \hyphenation would work like that, or \startexceptions without a language code. Apparently that's not the case.

\hyphenation only works for the given language:

 \hyphenation{macOS}  \starttext  \startTEXpage[offset=1em]  \currentlanguage:  \hyphenatedword{macOS}

 \startlanguage[fr]  \currentlanguage:  \hyphenatedword{macOS}  \stoplanguage  \stopTEXpage  \stoptext

But I’d say that \registerhyphenationexception[macOS] was language-independent for me some time ago. (Now it seems to work like \hyphenation.)

In any case, \registerhyphenationexception seems to have issues with ligatures:

 \setuphyphenation[method=traditional]  \registerhyphenationexception[steff-en macOS]  \registerhyphenationexception[it][steff-en macOS]

 \starttext  \startTEXpage[offset=1em]  \currentlanguage:  \hyphenatedword{steffen macOS}

 \startlanguage[it]  \currentlanguage:  \hyphenatedword{steffen macOS}  \stoplanguage  \stopTEXpage  \stoptext

If there isn’t a command to add language-indepented hyphenation exceptions or patterns, one for proper names (for people, products or companies) would be really useful.

Just in case Hans or other wizard may take a look at this,

Pablo

Hans, is there any news regarding Pablos wish?

no, because I'm in a different tex mode ... Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------