On 7/10/2024 9:10 AM, Thangalin wrote:

From TeX.SE, the following solution works; however, it doesn't feel like the "ConTeXt way":

% SOT \setuplocalboxes[leftmargin][     style=\bfd,     color=darkred,     distance=0pt, ]

\unprotect \define\quoteinitial{%     \futureexpandisap“\quoteinitial_true\quoteinitial_false% }

\define\quoteinitial_true{%     \localmargintext[leftmargin]{“}%     \expandafter\placeinitial%     \gobbleoneargument% }

\let\quoteinitial_false\placeinitial \protect

\starttext     \quoteinitial “We held ConTeXt in high esteem.” \samplefile{bryson}

    \quoteinitial We held ConTeXt in high esteem.   \samplefile{bryson} \stoptext %EOT

Any suggestions for how to improve it?

See also: https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/722275/2148 https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/722275/2148 \starttext

\setupbodyfont[dejavu,9pt] \defineinitial[two][m=1,method=auto] \setinitial[two] Knuth :\ignorespaces\input knuth \par \setinitial[two] \quotation {Knuth} :\ignorespaces\input knuth \par \stoptext ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On 7/10/2024 10:56 AM, Thangalin wrote:

Thank you Hans.

That's pretty close. Is there a way to make the opening quotation mark smaller? Ideally, control the font and colour?

You can try this (patch): \protected\def\typo_initial_handle_indeed#1#2% {\dontleavehmode \begingroup \cdef\currentinitial{#1}% \setupcurrentinitial[#2]% \resetfontfeature % might be needed in more places \ifempty{\initialparameter\c!style}% \definedfont[\initialparameter\c!font]% \else \useinitialstyleparameter\c!style \fi \ifempty{\initialparameter\c!color}% \c_attr_color \attributeunsetvalue \c_attr_transparency\attributeunsetvalue \else \useinitialcolorparameter\c!color \fi ...... \starttext \setupbodyfont[dejavu,9pt] \defineinitial[two][m=1,method=auto] \setupquotation[symcolor=red] \setinitial[two] Knuth :\ignorespaces\input knuth \par \setinitial[two] \quotation {Knuth} :\ignorespaces\input knuth \par \stoptext

Cheers!

On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 12:25 AM Hans Hagen via ntg-context mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

On 7/10/2024 9:10 AM, Thangalin wrote: >  From TeX.SE, the following solution works; however, it doesn't feel > like the "ConTeXt way": > > % SOT > \setuplocalboxes[leftmargin][ >      style=\bfd, >      color=darkred, >      distance=0pt, > ] > > \unprotect > \define\quoteinitial{% >      \futureexpandisap“\quoteinitial_true\quoteinitial_false% > } > > \define\quoteinitial_true{% >      \localmargintext[leftmargin]{“}% >      \expandafter\placeinitial% >      \gobbleoneargument% > } > > \let\quoteinitial_false\placeinitial > \protect > > \starttext >      \quoteinitial “We held ConTeXt in high esteem.” \samplefile{bryson} > >      \quoteinitial We held ConTeXt in high esteem. \samplefile{bryson} > \stoptext > %EOT > > Any suggestions for how to improve it? > > See also: https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/722275/2148 https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/722275/2148 > <https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/722275/2148 https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/722275/2148> \starttext

\setupbodyfont[dejavu,9pt]

\defineinitial[two][m=1,method=auto]

\setinitial[two]             Knuth   :\ignorespaces\input knuth \par \setinitial[two] \quotation {Knuth}  :\ignorespaces\input knuth \par

\stoptext

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On 11/07/2024 01:55, Thangalin wrote:

Any other ideas?

Yes, change/edit the text to avoid the quotation marks in the first place. e.g. There are always better/simpler ways to achieve the story to be told. Trace back to the underlying idea as why these drop capitals were invented in the first place. Most likely to visually separate blocs of mono colored bread text with the lead characters from the drawer below. These days there are (better) alternatives to solve the issue of separation text paragraphs. (avoiding a problem instead of trying to solve it afterwards) .F