Hi, Since quotations keep coming up on this list, and since i had a couple of new cd's to help me through the process of cooking up macros, i made an definable quotation macros, or more precise, something: \definedelimitedtext [quotation] [left={\symbol[leftquotation]}, right={\symbol[rightquotation]}, leftmargin=standard] \definedelimitedtext [quote][quotation] \setupdelimitedtext [quotation] [location=text, left={\symbol[leftquote]}, right={\symbol[rightquote]}] and for Mr. BigFoot: \definedelimitedtext [speech][quotation] \setupdelimitedtext [\v!spraak] [repeat=yes, left={\symbol[leftspeech]}, middle={\symbol[middlespeech]}, right={\symbol[rightspeech]}] Now, how do we call an tight quotation that those heavy quoting users want? \definedelimitedtext [xquotation][quotation] \setupdelimitedtext [xquotation] [indentnext=no, spacebefore=nowhite] (there are a couple of more switches) this mechanism will be available in the next beta, but the re-definitions not yet (first i want to make sure that it worsk ok) one can also use this feature for things like [whatever you want to be delimited] Hans I'll look into the epigraph (module) later (never needed them so far) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 07:08 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
Now, how do we call an tight quotation that those heavy quoting users want?
\definedelimitedtext [xquotation][quotation]
\setupdelimitedtext [xquotation] [indentnext=no, spacebefore=nowhite]
I'm not really sure honestly, but it seems this is what I was asking for to be the default behavior, and which is in most places (LaTeX, HTML, DocBook, Word, etc.) called "blockquote." So here I can turn off the symbols? Bruce
At 07:42 PM 11/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 07:08 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
Now, how do we call an tight quotation that those heavy quoting users want?
\definedelimitedtext [xquotation][quotation]
\setupdelimitedtext [xquotation] [indentnext=no, spacebefore=nowhite]
I'm not really sure honestly, but it seems this is what I was asking for to be the default behavior, and which is in most places (LaTeX, HTML, DocBook, Word, etc.) called "blockquote."
so, do we choose blockquote as name for the display quotation with no whitespace around it?
So here I can turn off the symbols?
yes, and a bit more (although for non-quotes things startnarrower may be a better solution) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 06:44 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
I'm not really sure honestly, but it seems this is what I was asking for to be the default behavior, and which is in most places (LaTeX, HTML, DocBook, Word, etc.) called "blockquote."
so, do we choose blockquote as name for the display quotation with no whitespace around it?
I was throwing it out there for comment from others. My point is that there should be a clear analog to the blockquote structures as they work in other systems here. It makes it easier for me as a user, and also easier to map code from DocBook and so forth to ConTeXt, and vice versa (relevant if we see a ConTeXt --> HTML converter). But, I can also say that it is not uncommon for me to be confused by ConTeXt naming schemes, so maybe I just don't get a logic that is there but I just don't always see.
So here I can turn off the symbols?
yes, and a bit more (although for non-quotes things startnarrower may be a better solution)
My point is that, in my experience, long set off quotations (block quotes) do not have quotation marks. They are, however, still "quotes." Bruce
At 09:04 AM 12/2/2002 -0500, you wrote: My point is that, in my experience, long set off quotations (block quotes) do not have quotation marks. They are, however, still "quotes." so, then you would need something \definedelimitedtext[longquote][blockquote] \setupdelimitedtext[longquote][left=,right=] and use \startlongquote ..... \stoplongquote so: longquote would inherit from blockquote except the symbols Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 07:08 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
I'll look into the epigraph (module) later...
Along with meta info structures (of relevance to all documents) like subtitle, abstract, author, etc.? And is there any reason not to just incorporate xdesc into the core to get epigraphs and so forth? If Giuseppe is right, beyond getting epigraph support, this also might (?) make Taco's life easier implementing m-bib v2. Bruce
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