[FONTS] Japanese Unicode

Nikolai Weibull

2 Sep 2004 2 Sep '04

10:49 p.m.

I'm trying to get some Japanese ideographs in my document, but haven't succeeded yet. Basically, what I've done is used Adam Lindsay's XSL-T stuff for creating an .enc for my .ttf (mona.ttf) and then run texfont to install the font in /usr/share/texmf/local/fonts. Now, I can't get the test .tex-file working because I get Warning: pdfetex (file cork-lmr10): Font cork-lmr10 at 600 not found {/usr/share/texmf/dvips/tetex/bbad153f.enc}{/usr/share/texmf/dvips/tetex/aae443f0.enc}{/usr/share/texmf/dvips/tetex/0ef0afca.enc}{/usr/share/texmf/dvips/tetex/74af c74c.enc}{/usr/share/texmf/dvips/tetex/f7b6d320 .enc} Warning: pdfetex (file mona30xx-raw-mona): Font mona30xx-raw-mona at 600 not fo und from it. Now, these are only warnings, so I tried showing it with gpdf (xpdf), ggv, and acroread for linux. Nothing worked correctly, and only gpdf was able to show anything at all (albeit it wasn't right). So I figured I'd try it myself. I wrote the following type-mone30xx.tex: \starttypescript[serif][mona30] \definefontsynonym[Mona30-Roman][mona30xx-mona][encoding=mona30xx] \stoptypescript \starttypescript[serif][mona30][name] \definefontsynonym[Serif][Mona30-Roman] \stoptypescript \starttypescript[Mona30] \definetypeface[Mona30][rm][serif][mona30][default] \stoptypescript and test.tex: \useregime[utf8] \usetypescriptfile[type-mona30] \usetypescript[Mona30] \setupbodyfont[Mona30] \starttext オ \stoptext Guess what...the resulting PDF is completely empty. Could someone _please_ tell me what I'm missing? I know I've been asking a lot of questions lately and perhaps most could have been answered by me delving deeper into the problem. The issue for me right now, though, is that I'm really stressed for time, as I need to get my masters' thesis done soon, and a lot is working against me at the moment. So, again, if you can help out in any way, _please_ do. nikolai -- ::: name: Nikolai Weibull :: aliases: pcp / lone-star / aka ::: ::: born: Chicago, IL USA :: loc atm: Gothenburg, Sweden ::: ::: page: www.pcppopper.org :: fun atm: gf,lps,ruby,lisp,war3 ::: main(){printf(&linux["\021%six\012\0"],(linux)["have"]+"fun"-97);}

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Taco Hoekwater

3 Sep 3 Sep

9:39 a.m.

Hi, Let me start by saying I don't actually understand what is going on. I only reply because it is usually the case that if you have warnings like these from pdfetex (with a resolution 'at 600' included)

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Warning: pdfetex (file cork-lmr10): Font cork-lmr10 at 600 not found Warning: pdfetex (file mona30xx-raw-mona): Font mona30xx-raw-mona at 600

then usually there is a missing map entry for that font, or the map file is not loaded by pdftex at all. -- groeten, Taco

Nikolai Weibull

5:34 p.m.

* Taco Hoekwater [Sep 03, 2004 14:40]:

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Warning: pdfetex (file cork-lmr10): Font cork-lmr10 at 600 not found Warning: pdfetex (file mona30xx-raw-mona): Font mona30xx-raw-mona at 600

then usually there is a missing map entry for that font, or the map file is not loaded by pdftex at all.

OK. So I was missing a lot of stuff. Anyway, I got it sort of working. What I did was // Update texmf.cnf to list TEXMFLOCAL = /usr/share/texmf/local instead // of TEXMFLOCAL = /usr/local/share/texmf. # ls mona.ttf ttx2enc.xsl # ttx -t cmap -t name mona.ttf : : # xsltproc --param vector "'30'" ttx2enc.xsl mona.ttx > mona30xx.enc # texfont --makepath --install --vendor=pcp --collection=mona \

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--encoding=mona30xx : : # TEXMF=/usr/share/texmf # echo "Map lm.map" > $TEXMF/web2c/updmap.cfg # updmap : : # echo "map +mona30xx-pcp-mona.map" > $TEXMF/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg # mkdir $TEXMF/dvips/local # cp mona30xx.enc $TEXMF/dvips/local/ # cp $TEXMF/local/fonts/map/mona30xx-pcp-mona.map $TEXMF/pdftex/config/ # texhash : : # texexec mona30xx-pcp-mona.tex : : # gpdf mona30xx-pcp-mona.pdf // Stare with incredible disappointment at the result.

At least some of the glyphs came out alright, but a lot of them are missing. For the rest I get little gray squares. For example, mona30xx.enc lists /glyph00462 % 0x30aa KATAKANA LETTER O yet that symbols appears as a gray square. What gives? Further Questions: 1) Eventhough the above procedure seems to work somewhat well, it's still rather complicated and I don't understand why texfont doesn't copy the .enc file to the enc/ directory it creates. 2) Why doesn't pdftex find the map file in $TEXMF/local/fonts/map? I've tried manipulating $TEXMF/web2c/texmf.cnf, changing the following: TEXFONTMAPS = .;$TEXMF/fontname -> TEXFONTMAPS = .;$TEXMF/fontname;$TEXMF/fonts/map but that didn't do it, even though 'kpsewhich --show-path=map' seems to pick it up. 3) Why doesn't pdftex find the .enc file once copied to the enc/ directory? Why do I have to place it under $TEXMF/dvips/? Still, thanks for the heads-up on pdftex not finding the .map file. nikolai -- ::: name: Nikolai Weibull :: aliases: pcp / lone-star / aka ::: ::: born: Chicago, IL USA :: loc atm: Gothenburg, Sweden ::: ::: page: www.pcppopper.org :: fun atm: gf,lps,ruby,lisp,war3 ::: main(){printf(&linux["\021%six\012\0"],(linux)["have"]+"fun"-97);}

Adam Lindsay

5:44 p.m.

Nikolai Weibull said this at Fri, 3 Sep 2004 17:34:35 +0200:

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At least some of the glyphs came out alright, but a lot of them are missing. For the rest I get little gray squares.

I think you're going to have to convert a lot more than just the U+30xx vector... Japanese covers a whole lot of glyph real-estate.

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1) Eventhough the above procedure seems to work somewhat well, it's still rather complicated and I don't understand why texfont doesn't copy the .enc file to the enc/ directory it creates.

TeXFont is pretty tuned to use existing map files, and I can see how, in Hans's original design (considering his recent rail against duplicate/ incompatible encodings), copying an .enc file could be seen as a bug.

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3) Why doesn't pdftex find the .enc file once copied to the enc/ directory? Why do I have to place it under $TEXMF/dvips/?

AFAIK, we're in a transition in the TeX directory structure, and so things don't join up properly.

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For example, mona30xx.enc lists

/glyph00462 % 0x30aa KATAKANA LETTER O

yet that symbols appears as a gray square. What gives?

Hmm, I'm not sure. Email me off-list with your source doc and your mona.ttx, and I'll see if I can take a look. adam -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 Bldg +44(0)1524/xxx.xxx Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Nikolai Weibull

8:37 p.m.

* Adam Lindsay [Sep 03, 2004 17:50]:

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At least some of the glyphs came out alright, but a lot of them are missing. For the rest I get little gray squares.

I think you're going to have to convert a lot more than just the U+30xx vector... Japanese covers a whole lot of glyph real-estate.

True, yet almost all the symbols where Katakana, so 0x30xx covers most of them.

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1) Eventhough the above procedure seems to work somewhat well, it's still rather complicated and I don't understand why texfont doesn't copy the .enc file to the enc/ directory it creates.

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TeXFont is pretty tuned to use existing map files, and I can see how, in Hans's original design (considering his recent rail against duplicate/ incompatible encodings), copying an .enc file could be seen as a bug.

Yeah, that is certainly true.

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3) Why doesn't pdftex find the .enc file once copied to the enc/ directory? Why do I have to place it under $TEXMF/dvips/?

AFAIK, we're in a transition in the TeX directory structure, and so things don't join up properly.

OK. Perhaps I should try that minimal ConTeXt install I read about somewhere. nikolai -- ::: name: Nikolai Weibull :: aliases: pcp / lone-star / aka ::: ::: born: Chicago, IL USA :: loc atm: Gothenburg, Sweden ::: ::: page: www.pcppopper.org :: fun atm: gf,lps,ruby,lisp,war3 ::: main(){printf(&linux["\021%six\012\0"],(linux)["have"]+"fun"-97);}

Hans Hagen

5:51 p.m.

Nikolai Weibull wrote:

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2) Why doesn't pdftex find the map file in $TEXMF/local/fonts/map? I've tried manipulating $TEXMF/web2c/texmf.cnf, changing the following:

TEXFONTMAPS = .;$TEXMF/fontname -> TEXFONTMAPS = .;$TEXMF/fontname;$TEXMF/fonts/map

but that didn't do it, even though 'kpsewhich --show-path=map' seems to pick it up.

- did you run mktexlsr Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Nikolai Weibull

8:22 p.m.

* Hans Hagen [Sep 03, 2004 18:00]:

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2) Why doesn't pdftex find the map file in $TEXMF/local/fonts/map? I've tried manipulating $TEXMF/web2c/texmf.cnf, changing the following:

TEXFONTMAPS = .;$TEXMF/fontname -> TEXFONTMAPS = .;$TEXMF/fontname;$TEXMF/fonts/map but that didn't do it

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- did you run mktexlsr

Weird, it seems I forgot for that test. Anyway, pdfetex fails to find it anyway, even though kpsewhich finds it: Warning: pdfetex (file mona30xx-pcp-mona.map): cannot open font map file So I still need to keep it in $TEXMF/pdftex/config/ nikolai -- ::: name: Nikolai Weibull :: aliases: pcp / lone-star / aka ::: ::: born: Chicago, IL USA :: loc atm: Gothenburg, Sweden ::: ::: page: www.pcppopper.org :: fun atm: gf,lps,ruby,lisp,war3 ::: main(){printf(&linux["\021%six\012\0"],(linux)["have"]+"fun"-97);}

Hans Hagen Outside

4 Sep 4 Sep

4:49 p.m.

Nikolai Weibull wrote:

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* Hans Hagen [Sep 03, 2004 18:00]:

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2) Why doesn't pdftex find the map file in $TEXMF/local/fonts/map? I've tried manipulating $TEXMF/web2c/texmf.cnf, changing the following:

TEXFONTMAPS = .;$TEXMF/fontname -> TEXFONTMAPS = .;$TEXMF/fontname;$TEXMF/fonts/map but that didn't do it

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- did you run mktexlsr

Weird, it seems I forgot for that test. Anyway, pdfetex fails to find it anyway, even though kpsewhich finds it:

Warning: pdfetex (file mona30xx-pcp-mona.map): cannot open font map file

So I still need to keep it in $TEXMF/pdftex/config/

it's hard coded in pdftex, it's one of the changes for the next release of tex(live) (here i use my own texmf.cnf files with downward compatible path specs) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Nikolai Weibull

6:42 p.m.

* Hans Hagen Outside [Sep 04, 2004 18:30]:

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So I still need to keep it in $TEXMF/pdftex/config/

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it's hard coded in pdftex, it's one of the changes for the next release of tex(live)

Aha. Thanks for clarifying. I dunno, but it seems most people are running texlive nowadays? Gentoo (my linux distrubition) only provides tetex which hasn't had a stable release for nearly two years it seems. nikolai -- ::: name: Nikolai Weibull :: aliases: pcp / lone-star / aka ::: ::: born: Chicago, IL USA :: loc atm: Gothenburg, Sweden ::: ::: page: www.pcppopper.org :: fun atm: gf,lps,ruby,lisp,war3 ::: main(){printf(&linux["\021%six\012\0"],(linux)["have"]+"fun"-97);}

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