On Thu, Apr 24 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:

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- What is the meaning of each parameter of \definetypeface?

see mfonts.pdf

There are examples, but I didn't find an explanation of the parameters. If I understand right, theses are synonyms: rm <-> serif ss <-> sans tt <-> mono mm <-> math I'm trying to reduce redundancy, and indeed this works very well: \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [] [serif] [] (This works too: \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [XXX] [serif] [YYY] ) In the end, I come up with the following typescript: \starttypescript [urwgaramond] \setups[font:fallback:serif] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [Garamond-Regular] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [Garamond-Medium] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Garamond-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Garamond-MediumItalic] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Regular] [file:GaramondNo8-Reg] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Medium] [file:GaramondNo8-Med] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Italic] [file:GaramondNo8-Ita] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-MediumItalic] [file:GaramondNo8-MedIta] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [] [serif] [] \stoptypescript \usetypescript[urwgaramond] \setupbodyfont[urwgaramond] Is this clean, or do you see any problems? Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

On Thu, Apr 24 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

\starttypescipt [mytypeface] \definetypeface [mytypeface] [ss] [sans] [...] [default] \stoptypescript

I try to ask better questions: - The first argument to \definetypeface is the name of the typeface, right? - Why do I need the second *and* the third arguments, they seem redundant to me? ("ss" means always "sans" and so on) - What is the meaning of the fourth argument, it seems that I don't need it? - Same question for the fifth argument.

If you use this typescript as bodyfont a sans style would be used instead of roman.

Why this odd defintion I see now why why you have to enclose all synonyms within a typescript environment.

I don't have to, this works too: \starttypescript [urwgaramond] \setups[font:fallback:serif] [...] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [urwgaramond] [...] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [] [serif] [] \stoptypescript

You will also loose the functionality to create a new font collcetion for your document with the serif garamond as serif typeface, palatino for math etc.

Next exercise for me: creation of a new font collection! Could you suggest please, what fonts would fit nicely with garamond, for ss, tt and mm? Then I'll report back the font collection with garamond as main font. Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

On Thu, Apr 24 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

The content is the name of the typescript you want to use for the font collection, take for example you are interested to combine different fonts for one document to one collcetion.

\starttypescript [letter] \definetypeface [letter] [rm] [serif] [cambria] [default] \definetypeface [letter] [ss] [serif] [corbel] [default] \definetypeface [letter] [tt] [mono] [consolas] [default] \stoptypescript

\usetypescript[letter] \setupbodyfont[letter]

Ok, I understand better now: - one meaning of starttypescript-stoptypescript is the definition of a typescript (2 arguments) - a second meaning is the definition of a font-collection (one argument)

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Why this odd defintion I see now why why you have to enclose all synonyms within a typescript environment.

I don't have to, this works too: \starttypescript [urwgaramond] \setups[font:fallback:serif] [...] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [urwgaramond] [...] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [] [serif] [] \stoptypescript

What do you use for [...] in the second typescript.

Pardon, here the full version: \starttypescript [urwgaramond] \setups[font:fallback:serif] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [Garamond-Regular] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [Garamond-Medium] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Garamond-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Garamond-MediumItalic] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [urwgaramond] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Regular] [file:GaramondNo8-Reg] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Medium] [file:GaramondNo8-Med] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Italic] [file:GaramondNo8-Ita] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-MediumItalic] [file:GaramondNo8-MedIta] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [] [serif] [] \stoptypescript This works too: \starttypescript [urwgaramond] \setups[font:fallback:serif] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [Garamond-Regular] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [Garamond-Medium] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Garamond-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Garamond-MediumItalic] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [urwgaramond] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Regular] [file:GaramondNo8-Reg] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Medium] [file:GaramondNo8-Med] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Italic] [file:GaramondNo8-Ita] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-MediumItalic] [file:GaramondNo8-MedIta] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [urwgaramond] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [] [serif] [] \stoptypescript Thanks for all your explanations! Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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AFAIK they are the command to switch from one style to another one, e.g. \rm, \ss but I wondered myself about this.

not really, since we also have hw (handwritten) and cg (calligraphy)

I know rm, ss, tt, mm, hw and cg but you write in the font manual it is also possible to define own commands, is this possible for the short command and if yes how.

anyhow, sometimes i do map the ss to a serif or rm to sans; depends on how mixed your doc may be

Do you mean I could write \definetype [...] [rm] [sans] to get a sans font with the \rm command. Wolfgang

Am 2008-04-24 um 13:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

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Next exercise for me: creation of a new font collection! Could you suggest please, what fonts would fit nicely with garamond, for ss, tt and mm?

I suggest palatino (mathpazo?) for math but this would be more a topic for Hraban, you could try to use the luxi mono fonts for typewriter.

Sorry, had no time to read mailing lists last week... I seldom use math, so I can't say anything useful about math fonts. Perhaps try Euler, I guess they fit well with a lot of serif fonts. I generally like the LM mono more than any other typewriter font - it's not only a line font like Courier, is well readable, has several faces and looks really nice. I never used URW Garamond, so I can't really advise you on some fitting sans. It depends what you intend to typeset in what face (e.g. only titlings in sans, body text in serif?). It also depends on the subject of your product - novels, science books, lifestyle magazines, product brochures etc. need a different style. Perhaps try if you like Frutiger, Optima (URW Classico), URW Grotesk, Myriad or even Helvetica (TeXGyre Heros). If you need it only for titlings, perhaps you'll like Clearface Gothic, FF Unit, Benguiat Gothic... It's really a matter of taste. (Most of the mentioned fonts are commercial, of course.) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:06:22 -0600, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

I generally like the LM mono more than any other typewriter font - it's not only a line font like Courier, is well readable, has several faces and looks really nice.

Yes, but very poorly hinted :-( Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/