Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

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you want more space for the sym?

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\startitemize[5*broad] \item {word} .... \item {another} .... \stopitemize

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(if needed, you can define an itemgroup with a default wider left margin)

No please this is horrible. I would like the item/desc/head to 'run in' the text. I guess I'll have to use the \startdesc stuff :\

To be precise: the effect I'm looking for is one which could be obtained by \head commands in \start/\stopitemize, if we could have the heads run-in with the text. -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Thursday, November 24, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

Hi,

Something like this?

Yes, that's a good start :) however, I would leave the option to have both the symbol and the text, exactly as if it was run-in \head (i.e. with the actual item test following the \head text on the same line). However, you ma want to have this as an option to \head ... maybe it can already be achieved with an appropriate afterhead?

(PS. I cannot send mail to your address, it bounces, do you have an alternative one?)

Hm, which address is bouncing? bigfoot is long dead, use the one I'm sending this from. -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Hans Hagen wrote:

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

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Yes, that's a good start :) however, I would leave the option to have both the symbol and the text, exactly as if it was run-in \head (i.e. with the actual item test following the \head text on the same line). However, you ma want to have this as an option to \head ... maybe it can already be achieved with an appropriate afterhead?

so you want

1. somethingbold whatever text follows in running font

2. somethingelsebold whatever othertext follows in running font

That would be quite simple, like so: \def\itemplus{\dosingleempty\doitemplus} \def\doitemplus[#1]#2{\item[#1] {\bf #2}} Right? Taco

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

However, I find it really 'funny' that there are n different methods to create items in an enumeration ... should these be rather enumeration options, so that you can use the same source code and just chang the stuff in \setup/\staritemize to achieve the different effects?

This is why I was thinking of using \head, still, for example.

Ah, I see. So instead of just the \setupitemize[symbol=] have something more like \setupitemize[textcommand=, numbercommand=, command=] as for heads and such? Taco

Thursday, November 24, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:

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Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

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However, I find it really 'funny' that there are n different methods to create items in an enumeration ... should these be rather enumeration options, so that you can use the same source code and just chang the stuff in \setup/\staritemize to achieve the different effects?

This is why I was thinking of using \head, still, for example.

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: this is a variant of taco's posted solution: \unprotect \def\complexdoitemgroupitem[#1]% too many historical \ignorespaces {\ifconditional\textlistitem % begin of item \else \par \fi \ignorespaces \ifconditional\concatnextitem % new, concat \doitembreak\nobreak % new, concat \fi % new, concat \doadvanceitem \ifnum\itemcolumndepth=0\relax\ifnum\noflistelements>0\relax \doitembreak\nobreak \fi\fi \ifconditional\firstlistitem \setfalse\firstlistitem \begingroup \ifcase\itemlevel \or % 1 \ifnum\itemcolumndepth=0\relax \ifconditional\introlistitem\doitembreak\nobreak\fi \getitemparameter1\c!before \ifconditional\introlistitem\doitembreak\nobreak\fi \fi \else % 2 en hoger \ifconditional\paragraphlistitem \else \let\previtemlevel\itemlevel \decrement\previtemlevel \ifcase\autoitemgroupspacing\relax % nieuw \getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!before \or \doifelsenothing{\getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!before} {\getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!before} {\getitemparameter\previtemlevel\c!inbetween}% \else \getitemparameter\previtemlevel\c!inbetween % == itemlevel-1 \fi \fi \fi \else \getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!inbetween \fi \ifconditional\concatnextitem % new, concat \vskip-\lastskip % new, concat \vskip-\lineheight % new, concat \nobreak % new, concat \fi % new, concat \ignorespaces \dolistitem \ifconditional\packlistitem \setupwhitespace[\v!none]% \fi \getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!inner \marsymbol \let\marsymbol\relax \doifsomething{#1} {\doifnot\itemreference\unknownitemreference {\bgroup \protectconversion \rawreference\s!lst{#1}\itemreference \egroup}}% \strut % added 11-08-99 \setfalse\concatnextitem % new, concat \hskip\itemsignal % new, concat \getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!command} \def\defaultitemcommand {\EveryPar{\ignorespaces}% \ignorespaces} \def\doinitializeitemgrouplevel#1% {\copyparameters [\??op\currentitemgroup#1][\??oo] [\c!width,\c!factor,\c!distance,\c!align,\c!option, \c!style,\c!marstyle,\c!symstyle,\c!headstyle, \c!color,\c!marcolor,\c!symcolor,\c!headcolor, \c!beforehead,\c!afterhead,\c!before,\c!inbetween,\c!after, \c!stopper,\c!placestopper,\c!indenting, \c!n,\c!inner,\c!symbol,\c!margin,\c!items, \c!leftmargin,\c!rightmargin,\c!indentnext, \c!command, \c!start,\c!lefttext,\c!righttext]} % test this: saves hash entries and is also faster % % \let\doinitializeitemgrouplevel\gobbleoneargument \def\getitemparameter#1#2% {\executeifdefined{\??op\currentitemgroup#1#2}% {\executeifdefined{\??op\currentitemgroup #2}% {\executeifdefined{\??oo #2}}}} \setupitemgroups[\c!command=\defaultitemcommand] \starttext \def\MyItemCommand#1{{\bf#1}\quad} \setupitemgroup[itemize][command=\MyItemCommand] \startitemize \item {test} is this okay? \item {test} is this okay? \item {test} is this okay? \stopitemize \stoptext so, this way you can hook in a command that is executed after the symbol placement Hans

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

Thursday, November 24, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

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this is a variant of taco's posted solution:

[snip]

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so, this way you can hook in a command that is executed after the symbol placement

I like it! (Ok, I won't use it this time because in the mean time I reworked the text to use \head, with the benefit of some extra lines which in a PhD thesis are always welcome :))

anyway, i posted an update at: www.pragma-ade.com/temp/cont-tmf.zip this one has - the interline patch - the itemize extensions - vit's columnset mark stuff (yet imperfect but ..) it's in /temp because i want it tested first -) Hans

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

This is why I was thinking of using \head, still, for example.

but \head does not take an argument; it just treats the first paragraph as special Hans

Thursday, November 24, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

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(PS. I cannot send mail to your address, it bounces, do you have an alternative one?)

Hm, which address is bouncing? bigfoot is long dead, use the one I'm sending this from.

I get:

When trying to deliver your message, the mail server at controller-1 encountered problems with the following addresses:

For , Site (iol.it/193.70.193.95) said: 504 <controller-1>: Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname

Looks like your sending program or ISP doesn't provide a fully qualified hostname, but rather something like hagen@locahost or something. -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta