Re: [NTG-context] Re: de quoteing

newer
typescripts and environments

older
changing tt only

Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini

31 Jan 2003 31 Jan '03

12:10 a.m.

Hallo!

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I have set: \mainlanguage[de] But Apostroph is still 6 not 9. How can I change this?

Grrr! This was homemade. Some character 0x91 in my inputfile.

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Here is an example file. Note that you need a font that has these characters available (cmr does not). For the < and > see leftquote

What about cmsy \ll ? In LaTeX this is used to build \flqq.

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and rightquotation. These are the possibilities for the "french" quotation marks.

By texexecing this file, the font utmr8r could' nt be found?! Should this be available in a standard debian-distribution?

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================================================== \usetypescript[berry][8r] \setupencoding[default=8r]

\setupbodyfont[pos]

\mainlanguage[de] \starttext

such' doch

%latest beta version for this (german example file): \input aesop-de

\blank[big]

%your context version should not be too old... \setuplanguage[de][leftquotation=\rightguillemot, rightquotation=\leftguillemot]

\input aesop-de \stoptext ==================================================

Wolfgang

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Patrick Gundlach

31 Jan 31 Jan

11:42 a.m.

New subject: de quoteing

"Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini" writes: Hello Wolfang,

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By texexecing this file, the font utmr8r could' nt be found?! Should this be available in a standard debian-distribution?

Which debian are you using? In potato the tetex was kind of broken (in this respect). I'll send you a testfile off list. Patrick

Patrick Gundlach

1:12 p.m.

New subject: de quoteing

"Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini" writes: Hello again,

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What about cmsy \ll ? In LaTeX this is used to build \flqq.

come on, \ll is *ugly*. This is a "don't do it". But in case you really need this, see example below. But, (I should put this into my signature) Hans has very likely a much better way to switch to the samller font. Too bad \tfxxx is not avaliable... Patrick ================================================== %% This is an ugly hack. Please ask Hans for a nice replacement. With %% 12pt bodyfontsize the symbol-font should be cmsy6 notscaled! \definesymbol [uglyleft] [\raise.27ex\hbox{\setupbodyfont[small]\tfxx\getglyph{cmsy6}{\char29}}] \definesymbol [uglyright] [\raise.27ex\hbox{\setupbodyfont[small]\tfxx\getglyph{cmsy6}{\char28}}] \mainlanguage[de] \setuplanguage[de][leftquotation={\symbol[uglyleft]}, rightquotation={\symbol[uglyright]}] \starttext %latest beta version for this (german example file): \input aesop-de \blank[big] \usetypescript[berry][8r] \setupencoding[default=8r] \setupbodyfont[pos] %your context version should not be too old... \setuplanguage[de][leftquotation=\rightguillemot, rightquotation=\leftguillemot] \input aesop-de \stoptext ==================================================

Hans Hagen

2 p.m.

New subject: de quoteing

At 01:12 PM 1/31/2003 +0100, you wrote:

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come on, \ll is *ugly*. This is a "don't do it". But in case you really need this, see example below. But, (I should put this into my signature) Hans has very likely a much better way to switch to the samller font. Too bad \tfxxx is not avaliable...

Is there any need for an xxx? it's not that hard to implement that (search for !xx in font-ini and you'll see why), but is it worth the overhead? Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Patrick Gundlach

4:23 p.m.

New subject: de quoteing

Hans Hagen writes: Hello Hans,

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signature) Hans has very likely a much better way to switch to the samller font. Too bad \tfxxx is not avaliable...

Is there any need for an xxx? it's not that hard to implement that (search for !xx in font-ini and you'll see why), but is it worth the overhead?

I sure had a look in font-ini.tex :). There is no real need. But if I know how to get similar results without too many side effects, that would be fine. I have used \setupbodyfont [small] \tfxx in a local group. I just don't know if this is OK or not (side effects, you know :) Patrick

Hans Hagen

1 Feb 1 Feb

12:06 a.m.

New subject: de quoteing

At 04:23 PM 1/31/2003 +0100, you wrote:

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Hans Hagen writes:

Hello Hans,

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signature) Hans has very likely a much better way to switch to the samller font. Too bad \tfxxx is not avaliable...

Is there any need for an xxx? it's not that hard to implement that (search for !xx in font-ini and you'll see why), but is it worth the overhead?

I sure had a look in font-ini.tex :). There is no real need. But if I know how to get similar results without too many side effects, that would be fine. I have used \setupbodyfont [small] \tfxx in a local group. I just don't know if this is OK or not (side effects, you know :)

\small \tfx is fine and when typefaces are used even not that slow Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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