Problem with LMTX on macOS: no format file given, quitting

Tommaso Gordini

12 Feb 2023 12 Feb '23

4:28 p.m.

Hello list, I am writing to you about a problem with ConTeXt LMTX and TeXShop 5.11 on macOS 12.6.3 (MacBook Air M2). Yesterday I installed LMTX on my computer following the instructions here: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installing_ConTeXt_LMTX_on_MacOS The LMTX tree is correctly installed in the directory I've chosen: charlie@Air-di-Tommaso ~ % which luametatex /Users/charlie/Documents/ConTeXt/ConTeXt-LMTX/tex/texmf-osx-arm64/bin/luametatex charlie@Air-di-Tommaso ~ % type luametatex luametatex is /Users/charlie/Documents/ConTeXt/ConTeXt-LMTX/tex/texmf-osx-arm64/bin/luametatex charlie@Air-di-Tommaso ~ % luametatex --version This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.10.06 Execute 'luametatex --credits' for credits and version details. There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is covered by the terms of the GNU General Public License, version 2 or (at your option) any later version. For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING and the LuaMetaTeX source. Functionality : level 20230126 Support : context@ntg.nl Copyright : The Lua(Meta)TeX Team(s) (2005-2022+) The LuaMetaTeX project is related to ConTeXt development. This macro package tightly integrates TeX and MetaPost in close cooperation with Lua. Updates will happen in sync with ConTeXt and when needed. Don't be fooled by unchanged dates: long-term stability is the objective. However, I also get this: charlie@Air-di-Tommaso ~ % luametatex startup error : no format file given, quitting Also, I created the TeXShop engine as indicated on the page (I've done it before with no problems). However, now when I run LMTX from editor to compose a source, the source is compiled with MkIV Standalone, which I have in another folder ( /Users/charlie/Documents/ConTeXt/ConTeXt-MkIV). LMTX doesn't even work from a terminal, of course. The curious thing is that even by launching the ConTeXt present in TeX Live, what really works is always MkIV Standalone. Do you have any idea where I might have gone wrong? Thank you very much Tommaso

Attachments:

attachment.html (text/html — 2.4 KB)

Show replies by date

Pablo Rodriguez

12 Feb 12 Feb

5:34 p.m.

On 2/12/23 16:28, Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context wrote:

...

[...] However, I also get this:

charlie@Air-di-Tommaso ~ % luametatex startup error : no format file given, quitting

Hi Tommaso, my ConTeXt LMTX is fully functional and I get this message too.

...

Also, I created the TeXShop engine as indicated on the page (I've done it before with no problems). However, now when I run LMTX from editor to compose a source, the source is compiled with MkIV Standalone, which I have in another folder (/Users/charlie/Documents/ConTeXt/ConTeXt-MkIV). LMTX doesn't even work from a terminal, of course.

I’m on Linux, so no TeXShop here. BTW, I’m not sure "luametatex" may work as you intend (without any format file).

...

The curious thing is that even by launching the ConTeXt present in TeX Live, what really works is always MkIV Standalone.

I don‘t think ConTeXt from TeX Live includes LMTX (https://ctan.org/search?phrase=luametatex).

...

Do you have any idea where I might have gone wrong?

My guess is that when you invoke ConTeXt, you are running it from TeX Live (or from other than the wiki installation). To check that, what do you get from "which context"? Which is your output from "context --version"? My system reads: mtx-context | current version: 2023.02.07 19:06 When in doubt run the following (given the paths you provided): cd ~/Documents/ConTeXt/ConTeXt-LMTX/ sh ./install.sh cd && context --version And you should get what my system reads (unless there is an update today). I hope it helps, Pablo

Pablo Rodriguez

5:56 p.m.

On 2/12/23 17:34, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:

...

On 2/12/23 16:28, Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context wrote:

...
[...] Do you have any idea where I might have gone wrong?

My guess is that when you invoke ConTeXt, you are running it from TeX Live (or from other than the wiki installation).

Hi Tommaso, I forgot to mention, to avoid path clashes, you may invoke ConTeXt in the following way (it is only one line and there is no space between lines): export PATH=~/Documents/ConTeXt/ConTeXt-LMTX/\ tex/texmf-osx-arm64/bin/:$PATH && context source-file.tex Just in case it might help, Pablo

Tommaso Gordini

9:26 p.m.

Thanks, Pablo. Can I write to you privately? My problem may not matter to everyone. Tommaso Il dom 12 feb 2023, 17:56 Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context < ntg-context@ntg.nl> ha scritto:

...

On 2/12/23 17:34, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:

...
On 2/12/23 16:28, Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context wrote:

...
[...] Do you have any idea where I might have gone wrong?

My guess is that when you invoke ConTeXt, you are running it from TeX Live (or from other than the wiki installation).

Hi Tommaso,

I forgot to mention, to avoid path clashes, you may invoke ConTeXt in the following way (it is only one line and there is no space between lines):

export PATH=~/Documents/ConTeXt/ConTeXt-LMTX/\ tex/texmf-osx-arm64/bin/:$PATH && context source-file.tex

Just in case it might help,

Pablo

___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net

___________________________________________________________________________________

Jean-Pierre Delange

13 Feb 13 Feb

8:23 a.m.

Tommaso, Most likely you're not the only one looking to properly install CTX on MacOSX. Also all the tricks that allow to do it may interest other people... Le 12/02/2023 à 21:26, Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context a écrit :

...

Thanks, Pablo. Can I write to you privately? My problem may not matter to everyone.

Tommaso

Il dom 12 feb 2023, 17:56 Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context ha scritto:

On 2/12/23 17:34, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: > On 2/12/23 16:28, Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context wrote: >> [...] >> Do you have any idea where I might have gone wrong? > > My guess is that when you invoke ConTeXt, you are running it from TeX > Live (or from other than the wiki installation).

Hi Tommaso,

I forgot to mention, to avoid path clashes, you may invoke ConTeXt in the following way (it is only one line and there is no space between lines):

export PATH=~/Documents/ConTeXt/ConTeXt-LMTX/\ tex/texmf-osx-arm64/bin/:$PATH && context source-file.tex

Just in case it might help,

Pablo ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________

___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist :ntg-context@ntg.nl /https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage :https://www.pragma-ade.nl /http://context.aanhet.net archive :https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki :https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________

-- Jean-Pierre Delange Ancients&Moderns Professeur Agrégé de Philosophie (HC)

Hans Hagen

9:38 a.m.

...

Tommaso,

Most likely you're not the only one looking to properly install CTX on MacOSX. Also all the tricks that allow to do it may interest other people... also keep in mind that when you install both lmtx and mkiv that luametatex will be the runner for luatex, so in order to run mkiv one

On 2/13/2023 8:23 AM, Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context wrote: then needs: context --luatex on texlive (2023) that will be the way to go now which basically means that as mkii is frozen, mkiv is now frozen in favor of mkxl (aka lmtx) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Hans Hagen

9:32 a.m.

On 2/12/2023 5:34 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:

...

On 2/12/23 16:28, Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context wrote:

...
[...] However, I also get this:

charlie@Air-di-Tommaso ~ % luametatex startup error : no format file given, quitting

Hi Tommaso,

my ConTeXt LMTX is fully functional and I get this message too. sure, because that message is okay: luametatex cannot do anything useful until it is properly initialized so you need to either run it in ini mode or provide a format file (made in ini mode)

just ask yourself: what would you expect the 'luametatex' command (without any commandline argumment) to do ... it has to be told how to read files, what primitives to enable, how to locate and load fonts, how to produce backend code ... not much different from running 'lua' or whatever scripting language that expects some source to work with the 'mtxrun' and 'context' commands are basically 'luametatex' with a different name so that it knows what script / format to load Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Hans Hagen

9:36 a.m.

On 2/12/2023 4:28 PM, Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context wrote:

...

The curious thing is that even by launching the ConTeXt present in TeX Live, what really works is always MkIV Standalone. There should be

mtxrun -> luametatex context -> luametatex links plus mxtrun.lua context.lua in the binary path. I have no mac so i cannot check these things (i can test windows intel and linux intel/arm but osx is a gamble) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Luis Montgomery

6:22 p.m.

In my MacOSX Ventura 13.2 on M1, ConTeXt work fine. $ context --version mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 1.04 mtx-context | mtx-context | main context file: /Users/monty/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv mtx-context | current version: 2023.01.15 14:04 mtx-context | main context file: /Users/monty/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/context.mkxl mtx-context | current version: 2023.01.15 14:04 $ luametatex --version This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.10.05 Execute 'luametatex --credits' for credits and version details. There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is covered by the terms of the GNU General Public License, version 2 or (at your option) any later version. For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING and the LuaMetaTeX source. Functionality : level 20230112 Support : context@ntg.nl Copyright : The Lua(Meta)TeX Team(s) (2005-2022+) The LuaMetaTeX project is related to ConTeXt development. This macro package tightly integrates TeX and MetaPost in close cooperation with Lua. Updates will happen in sync with ConTeXt and when needed. Don't be fooled by unchanged dates: long term stability is the objective. $ context ex100.tex $ more ex100.log system > system > ConTeXt ver: 2023.02.07 19:06 LMTX fmt: 2023.2.13 int: english/english system > system > 'cont-new.mkxl' loaded open source > level 1, order 1, name '/Users/monty/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-new.mkxl' ... All in order. Greetings. Luis El lun, 13 feb 2023 a las 2:36, Hans Hagen via ntg-context (< ntg-context@ntg.nl>) escribió:

...

On 2/12/2023 4:28 PM, Tommaso Gordini via ntg-context wrote:

...
The curious thing is that even by launching the ConTeXt present in TeX Live, what really works is always MkIV Standalone. There should be

mtxrun -> luametatex context -> luametatex

links plus

mxtrun.lua context.lua

in the binary path.

I have no mac so i cannot check these things (i can test windows intel and linux intel/arm but osx is a gamble)

Hans

----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net

___________________________________________________________________________________

548

Age (days ago)

549

Last active (days ago)

List overview

Download

8 comments

5 participants

participants (5)

Hans Hagen
Jean-Pierre Delange
Luis Montgomery
Pablo Rodriguez
Tommaso Gordini

Problem with LMTX on macOS: no format file given, quitting

tags

participants (5)