Ricard Roca wrote:

I think that's not possible because of TeX. TeX limits any dimension to 2^30 scaled points (~5.75 m).

I just realized you can cheat just a little: \hsize=575cm \advance \hsize \hsize \message{\the\hsize} % reports 32720.66928pt ~ 11.5m A nice one for Pavel's new 'TeX surprises' in eurobachotex next year.

But that's only the TeX part. I don't know if dvi drivers can combine several TeX pages in one printer page infinitely. Possibly any of the PostScript tools?

DVI maybe, but my Acrobat Reader 7 silently drops the bottom off pages that are higher than 200in (508cm). Cheers, taco

2006/7/18, Taco Hoekwater :

DVI maybe, but my Acrobat Reader 7 silently drops the bottom off pages that are higher than 200in (508cm).

This is an implementation limit of AR7: 200inx200in. This can be overcome by using UserUnit in PDF 1.6: Then you can have up to 15.000.000inx15.000.000in . Best Martin

On 7/18/06, Hans Hagen wrote:

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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Hello,

Is there any way to create "infinite" paper size: such a paper that all the content fits exactly on a single page? ̣(As a workaroung I can still create a page of height 2m and then crop it if no other solution is available.)

\setuplayout [width=8cm] \definepapersize [infinite] [width=12cm, height=100cm] \setuppapersize [infinite] [infinite]

\starttext \startTEXpage your 4 meter poem \stopTEXpage \stoptext

Thank you, that's great! I knew about TEXpage, but never thought/forgot about such a misuse. Except for one little (buggy?) detail: \setuplayout [width=8.55cm, topspace=0cm, backspace=0cm, header=0pt, footer=0pt, height=fit, ] \definepapersize [infinite] [width=8.55cm, height=60cm] \starttext \startTEXpage \section{bla} \input tufte \stopTEXpage \stoptext section is too low and consequently the last (few) line(s) are cropped. The example on http://pub.mojca.org/presek/articles.tex also has the last page wider than the first two. Mojca PS: this last request has nothing to do with the problem above, but I have a little request if anyone is willing to help me. I need the file mentioned above (http://pub.mojca.org/presek/article2.tex) to be typeset in lucida (only to show it to the editor; they'll almost certainly buy the font, but I need the example faster than I can ask them to buy the font and figure out how to use it; they gave me 19 pfb files, but they're dating back to 1990 and it seems to me that there are not enough files anyway). Is anyone willing to compile the file above with lucida font and send me the resulting PDF? I would be very grateful for that. The last page has a little problem with accents and everything is shifted down, but I don't mind if they are a bit wrong this time since it's only an example.

Thank you, Ricard and Taco, On 7/18/06, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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Hello,

Is there any way to create "infinite" paper size: such a paper that all the content fits exactly on a single page? ̣(As a workaroung I can

Automatically cropping it back to the right size, you mean ? No, but that would be a neat feature. :-)

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still create a page of height 2m and then crop it if no other solution is available.)

The maximum paper height TeX can handle is approx 575cm, btw.

5m is "inifinite enough" for me (I hope). I only need to fit the whole article on a single page and I guess that no article will go over this limit. It would be nice if the paper size could be adjusted automatically (that's what I meant with infinite) to the length of the article, but if that would require too much effort, it would probably be easier if I crop the page after processing it with ConTeXt. Thanks, Mojca

On 7/18/06, Adam Lindsay wrote:

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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5m is "inifinite enough" for me (I hope). I only need to fit the whole article on a single page and I guess that no article will go over this limit.

FWIW, Acrobat 6 and earlier had severe problems with document dimensions over 200cm, so keep that in mind for compatibility.

That's not my problem any more. They asked me to prepare long continuous text with TeX (so that formulae and everything else will be OK) - they intend to use the resulting PDF to design a magazine in InDesign after that (I don't know how they're going to do that, but I assume that InDesign should be able to handle that - if not, I'll think about that after the problems arise).

Yes. See Hans's reply with \startTEXpage . Very handy command, that. :)

He replied faster than I noted ;) Yes, \startTEXpage it's *the* solution that I wanted, only the vertical shifting after \subject has to be fixed somehow. Thanks, Mojca

On 7/18/06, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 2006-07-18 um 15:56 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

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That's not my problem any more. They asked me to prepare long continuous text with TeX (so that formulae and everything else will be OK) - they intend to use the resulting PDF to design a magazine in InDesign after that (I don't know how they're going to do that, but I assume that InDesign should be able to handle that - if not, I'll think about that after the problems arise).

I recently had to typeset a book about steam engineering with some formulae. I would've done it with TeX, but the customer wanted InDesign data to be able to make corrections himself (and I wasn't evil enough to place TeX generated PDF pages in an ID document). I can tell you, typesetting formulae in InDesign are not funny!

1. not funny 2. extremely ugly I would do everything in ConTeXt, but I'm not a designer and I don't dare to take over the whole design. besides that magazines need sligtly more "individuality" for each page than books. The most easy solution would be if there was some TeX plugin in InDesign. The designers (students) only know how to work in ID and they suggested that they could do the desing in ID if I provided long columns of text (typeset in TeX) as PDF document. I never worked with ID (so I don't know how exactly it works), but apparently they're going to take the PDF document and order the text more or less graphically on pages. They don't need to modify text any more once they get the PDF (they don't understand the content anyway ;). Taco also mentioned some alternatives to ID, but I forgot which ones. Mojca

On 7/19/06, Hans Hagen wrote:

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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On 7/18/06, Adam Lindsay wrote:

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Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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5m is "inifinite enough" for me (I hope). I only need to fit the whole article on a single page and I guess that no article will go over this limit.

FWIW, Acrobat 6 and earlier had severe problems with document dimensions over 200cm, so keep that in mind for compatibility.

That's not my problem any more. They asked me to prepare long continuous text with TeX (so that formulae and everything else will be OK) - they intend to use the resulting PDF to design a magazine in InDesign after that (I don't know how they're going to do that, but I assume that InDesign should be able to handle that - if not, I'll think about that after the problems arise).

so why not use a small font; if it's cut and pasted in indesign then they can also scale

Most articles will be shorter than 2m anyway, I hope. If not, smaller font size is surely one of the possibilities, but I'll worry about that later (I don't doubt that I'll be bitten by enough ConTeXt bugs before that will happen). Thanks for the tip, Mojca

On 7/19/06, Hans Hagen wrote:

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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Most articles will be shorter than 2m anyway, I hope. If not, smaller font size is surely one of the possibilities, but I'll worry about that later (I don't doubt that I'll be bitten by enough ConTeXt bugs before that will happen).

do you mean real bugs or misuse of features stretched beyond their intended usage ...

in a next release i will implement \doifuserelse{mojca} {ignore feature} {carry on} -)

No problem. If my name won't be misspelled (as in some ConTeXt sources :) I can still add the following to the cont-usr.tex ;) \let\reverseuser=\doifuserelse \def\doifuserelse#1#2#3{\reverseuser{#1}{#3}{#2}} Mojca