problem with texmf-local on Vista
Hi, I am a user of Context from the old days, and usually don't need much help installing the software. However, I am needing to use Contextminimals for the first time, as Miktex 2.8 has dropped Context support. My problem is that I have a lot of my own setups and personal fonts and Contextminimals seems to have some problem dealing with local setups. I am using MkII by the way but these problems seem to exist in MkIV also. I have a font, Univers, installed to texmf-local with texfont and Context claims it cannot find the font definitions. running texexec I get the following: !pdfTeX error: pdftex.exe (file 8r-raw-punr8a): Font 8r-raw-punr8a at 432 not found ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced! TeXExec | runtime: 10.311 ConTeXt Full finished at Sun Nov 29 21:58:36 Then from command prompt, I type: C:\Users\Christopher>kpsewhich 8r-raw-punr8a.tfm c:/context/texmf-local/fonts/tfm/adobe/univers/8r-raw-punr8a.tfm I know this is not strictly relevant to MkII, but for comparison: C:\Users\Christopher>luatools --expand-path TEXMFLOCAL c:/context/texmf-local Also C:\Users\Christopher>texexec --version TeXExec | version 6.2.1 - 1997-2009 - PRAGMA ADE/POD C:\Users\Christopher>context --version MTXrun | main context file: c:/context/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.te x MTXrun | current version: 2009.10.27 16:35 How do I get Context to recognise the local setup? Christopher
Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
Hi,
I am a user of Context from the old days, and usually don't need much help installing the software. However, I am needing to use Contextminimals for the first time, as Miktex 2.8 has dropped Context support.
My problem is that I have a lot of my own setups and personal fonts and Contextminimals seems to have some problem dealing with local setups. I am using MkII by the way but these problems seem to exist in MkIV also.
I have a font, Univers, installed to texmf-local with texfont and Context claims it cannot find the font definitions.
running texexec I get the following:
!pdfTeX error: pdftex.exe (file 8r-raw-punr8a): Font 8r-raw-punr8a at 432 not found ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced! TeXExec | runtime: 10.311
ConTeXt Full finished at Sun Nov 29 21:58:36
Then from command prompt, I type: C:\Users\Christopher>kpsewhich 8r-raw-punr8a.tfm c:/context/texmf-local/fonts/tfm/adobe/univers/8r-raw-punr8a.tfm
I know this is not strictly relevant to MkII, but for comparison: C:\Users\Christopher>luatools --expand-path TEXMFLOCAL c:/context/texmf-local
Also C:\Users\Christopher>texexec --version TeXExec | version 6.2.1 - 1997-2009 - PRAGMA ADE/POD
C:\Users\Christopher>context --version MTXrun | main context file: c:/context/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.te x MTXrun | current version: 2009.10.27 16:35
How do I get Context to recognise the local setup?
can you check the TEXMF variable? there should be texmf-local as well as texmf-fonts and texmf-project (i normally put fonts in texmf-fonts) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 23:20, Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
Hi,
I am a user of Context from the old days, and usually don't need much help installing the software. However, I am needing to use Contextminimals for the first time, as Miktex 2.8 has dropped Context support.
My problem is that I have a lot of my own setups and personal fonts and Contextminimals seems to have some problem dealing with local setups. I am using MkII by the way but these problems seem to exist in MkIV also.
I have a font, Univers, installed to texmf-local with texfont and Context claims it cannot find the font definitions.
running texexec I get the following:
!pdfTeX error: pdftex.exe (file 8r-raw-punr8a): Font 8r-raw-punr8a at 432 not found ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced! TeXExec | runtime: 10.311
Hello Christopher, You may try one thing before starting the struggle with files. Can you try to put all the files that you need in current directory (the one from where you need to compile your document)? If that works then there's indeed a problem with TeX trees. If not, there might even be a problem with files themselves or with typescripts. (It looks like you have used the files before, but an extra check would not hurt.) It could be that some map file is missing or has not been properly generated. TeXfont might be a bit buggy. Mojca
Hi Mojca, I recommend we wait until the issue with executables referenced in my previous post is resolved. We are talking about a problem with texexec.bat, and I have a feeling that texexec.exe may behave differently, once I can execute it. (Tell Hans to test it on Vista, as he seemed to jump to the conclusion that I was using XP). However, my setups have been transferred directly from my iMac, and the test document compiles using gwTeX and an 18-month old version of Context. Christopher Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 23:20, Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
Hi,
I am a user of Context from the old days, and usually don't need much help installing the software. However, I am needing to use Contextminimals for the first time, as Miktex 2.8 has dropped Context support.
My problem is that I have a lot of my own setups and personal fonts and Contextminimals seems to have some problem dealing with local setups. I am using MkII by the way but these problems seem to exist in MkIV also.
I have a font, Univers, installed to texmf-local with texfont and Context claims it cannot find the font definitions.
running texexec I get the following:
!pdfTeX error: pdftex.exe (file 8r-raw-punr8a): Font 8r-raw-punr8a at 432 not found ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced! TeXExec | runtime: 10.311
Hello Christopher,
You may try one thing before starting the struggle with files. Can you try to put all the files that you need in current directory (the one from where you need to compile your document)? If that works then there's indeed a problem with TeX trees. If not, there might even be a problem with files themselves or with typescripts.
(It looks like you have used the files before, but an extra check would not hurt.)
It could be that some map file is missing or has not been properly generated. TeXfont might be a bit buggy.
Mojca
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 15:23, Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
Hi Mojca,
I recommend we wait until the issue with executables referenced in my previous post is resolved. We are talking about a problem with texexec.bat, and I have a feeling that texexec.exe may behave differently, once I can execute it. (Tell Hans to test it on Vista, as he seemed to jump to the conclusion that I was using XP).
Hans works on Vista. I tested Taco's executables on Windows 7 and they seem to work ok, but I can confirm that what's currently in distribution is broken on windows. (Which means that Hans either needs to take Taco's executables or completely remove them from distribution and I'll add them in minimals separately.) But then again ... I forgot to test texexec.exe, luatools.exe and mtxrun.exe run just fine. (2GB of ram hardly suffices to run windows inside VM since OSX with Safari alone takes it all, but I'll try to test again later.) I could use ugly patches now to remove the broken executables and replace them with newer ones, but I hope that Hans will fix that issue soon enough.
However, my setups have been transferred directly from my iMac, and the test document compiles using gwTeX and an 18-month old version of Context.
18 months most probably refers to TeX Live 2007 ... the fonts should still work, but anything is possible. There are two easy things to check if the tree is guilty: - either copy everything to current directory - or copy everything to texmf-context and run mktexlrs If it starts working then you may judge the tree structure, else it must be some other problem. Mojca
Hi Mojca, Yes, I forgot to mention that I copied all files to the Desktop (including the tfm and the typescript) and got the same error with texexec.bat. Also I last had Context working on this PC in May, and the file compiled fine. However, I removed MikTeX 2.7 shortly after that (which was broken) and have been unable to use Context since. Not a problem, as I have a working setup on my Mac, but there is very little reason to upgrade the Mac, as everything I need currently works. Christopher Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 15:23, Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
Hi Mojca,
I recommend we wait until the issue with executables referenced in my previous post is resolved. We are talking about a problem with texexec.bat, and I have a feeling that texexec.exe may behave differently, once I can execute it. (Tell Hans to test it on Vista, as he seemed to jump to the conclusion that I was using XP).
Hans works on Vista. I tested Taco's executables on Windows 7 and they seem to work ok, but I can confirm that what's currently in distribution is broken on windows. (Which means that Hans either needs to take Taco's executables or completely remove them from distribution and I'll add them in minimals separately.) But then again ... I forgot to test texexec.exe, luatools.exe and mtxrun.exe run just fine. (2GB of ram hardly suffices to run windows inside VM since OSX with Safari alone takes it all, but I'll try to test again later.)
I could use ugly patches now to remove the broken executables and replace them with newer ones, but I hope that Hans will fix that issue soon enough.
However, my setups have been transferred directly from my iMac, and the test document compiles using gwTeX and an 18-month old version of Context.
18 months most probably refers to TeX Live 2007 ... the fonts should still work, but anything is possible.
There are two easy things to check if the tree is guilty: - either copy everything to current directory - or copy everything to texmf-context and run mktexlrs
If it starts working then you may judge the tree structure, else it must be some other problem.
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On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 15:23, Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
Hi Mojca,
We are talking about a problem with texexec.bat, and I have a feeling that texexec.exe may behave differently, once I can execute it.
Unlikely. I just wanted to say that texexec.exe itself is also working (if I copy Taco's mtxrun.exe to texexec.exe).
Yes, I forgot to mention that I copied all files to the Desktop (including the tfm and the typescript) and got the same error with texexec.bat.
If you copied all the files to desktop (including map and enc files and removing the directory structure) and tried to compile a tex file on desktop ...it could be that there's something wrong with either files or ConTeXt, not necessary with wrong tree structure. I highly suspect a problem with same map file (missing, failed to load or corrupted). The tfm file itself is not enough. You also need to load a map file that has the line with that font included (unless it's a mf fonts).
Also I last had Context working on this PC in May, and the file compiled fine. However, I removed MikTeX 2.7 shortly after that (which was broken) and have been unable to use Context since. Not a problem, as I have a working setup on my Mac, but there is very little reason to upgrade the Mac, as everything I need currently works.
Mojca
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
I just wanted to say that texexec.exe itself is also working (if I copy Taco's mtxrun.exe to texexec.exe).
I figured out what the problem is ... when i make the zip, i zip a temporary tree. I do that using the -ll switch because when i started distributing the zips it was a demand that line ending should be nice for unix (windows can handle cr and lr, and we probably had no mac os-9 users). However, in a second zip pass, i add the binary files and dll/exe were never part of that. As a result, two bytes got messed up and these made the exe file invalid. So the problem is not related to xp or vista or 64 bit (which was somewhat puzzling for me as windows binaries are normally quite portable). I uploaded a new beta and installing seemd to work ok on xp and vista (virtual machines). The fact that it worked on taco and my machine is that we send binaries to each other. Als, the zip on taco's site was okay. Hans
OK the problem becomes clearer. The map files are now fixed, and texexec now complains it cannot find punr8a.pfb. Copying all pfb and afm files to c:\context\texmf-context\font\type1\adobe\univers and refreshing the filename database with mktexlsr allows the document to compile. I have two problems: (1) (The original problem) putting the pfb and afm files in texmf-local and updating filename database does not work. So texmf-local is being ignored. (2) (My real problem, preventing me from using my own setups) \input basic-template where basic-template.tex is in the local tree is an error and the file will not compile. However, I get this: C:\Users\Christopher>kpsewhich basic-template c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex C:\Users\Christopher> So for some reason texexec is not using kpsewhich to find setups. Why not? Christopher Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 15:23, Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
Hi Mojca,
We are talking about a problem with texexec.bat, and I have a feeling that texexec.exe may behave differently, once I can execute it.
Unlikely.
I just wanted to say that texexec.exe itself is also working (if I copy Taco's mtxrun.exe to texexec.exe).
Yes, I forgot to mention that I copied all files to the Desktop (including the tfm and the typescript) and got the same error with texexec.bat.
If you copied all the files to desktop (including map and enc files and removing the directory structure) and tried to compile a tex file on desktop ...it could be that there's something wrong with either files or ConTeXt, not necessary with wrong tree structure.
I highly suspect a problem with same map file (missing, failed to load or corrupted). The tfm file itself is not enough. You also need to load a map file that has the line with that font included (unless it's a mf fonts).
Also I last had Context working on this PC in May, and the file compiled fine. However, I removed MikTeX 2.7 shortly after that (which was broken) and have been unable to use Context since. Not a problem, as I have a working setup on my Mac, but there is very little reason to upgrade the Mac, as everything I need currently works.
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Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
However, I get this: C:\Users\Christopher>kpsewhich basic-template c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex
C:\Users\Christopher>
So for some reason texexec is not using kpsewhich to find setups. Why not?
this is not related to texexec but to the way texmf.cnf is set up what happens if you say kpsewhich -progname=context ... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
OK the problem becomes clearer. The map files are now fixed, and texexec now complains it cannot find punr8a.pfb. Copying all pfb and afm files to c:\context\texmf-context\font\type1\adobe\univers and refreshing the filename database with mktexlsr allows the document to compile.
I have two problems: (1) (The original problem) putting the pfb and afm files in texmf-local and updating filename database does not work. So texmf-local is being ignored.
(2) (My real problem, preventing me from using my own setups) \input basic-template where basic-template.tex is in the local tree is an error and the file will not compile.
However, I get this: C:\Users\Christopher>kpsewhich basic-template c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex
C:\Users\Christopher>
So for some reason texexec is not using kpsewhich to find setups. Why not?
you can simulate what context looks for with: texmfstart --locate basic-template.tex ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
So following your instructions I get: C:\Users\Christopher>kpsewhich -progname=texexec basic-template c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex C:\Users\Christopher>texmfstart --locate basic-template.tex C:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex C:\Users\Christopher> However when I run texexec, I get an error: texexec --pdf --interface=en --nonstop "rss-tech-tip.tex" ... (c:/context/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkii)) ! I can't find file `basic-template'. l.1 \input basic-template (Press Enter to retry, or Control-Z to exit) Please type another input file name ! Emergency stop. l.1 \input basic-template I don't have a clue what's happening, I'm afraid. Christopher Hans Hagen wrote:
Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
OK the problem becomes clearer. The map files are now fixed, and texexec now complains it cannot find punr8a.pfb. Copying all pfb and afm files to c:\context\texmf-context\font\type1\adobe\univers and refreshing the filename database with mktexlsr allows the document to compile.
I have two problems: (1) (The original problem) putting the pfb and afm files in texmf-local and updating filename database does not work. So texmf-local is being ignored.
(2) (My real problem, preventing me from using my own setups) \input basic-template where basic-template.tex is in the local tree is an error and the file will not compile.
However, I get this: C:\Users\Christopher>kpsewhich basic-template c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex
C:\Users\Christopher>
So for some reason texexec is not using kpsewhich to find setups. Why not?
you can simulate what context looks for with:
texmfstart --locate basic-template.tex
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Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
So following your instructions I get:
C:\Users\Christopher>kpsewhich -progname=texexec basic-template c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex
C:\Users\Christopher>texmfstart --locate basic-template.tex C:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex C:\Users\Christopher>
However when I run texexec, I get an error: texexec --pdf --interface=en --nonstop "rss-tech-tip.tex" .... (c:/context/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkii)) ! I can't find file `basic-template'. l.1 \input basic-template
(Press Enter to retry, or Control-Z to exit) Please type another input file name ! Emergency stop. l.1 \input basic-template
I don't have a clue what's happening, I'm afraid.
i have no clue either, some kpse mess up or so Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 18:53, Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
So following your instructions I get:
C:\Users\Christopher>kpsewhich -progname=texexec basic-template c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex
Does it help if you move the file to c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/context/third/mine/basic-template.tex The important thing might be to put it under tex/context/[whatever]. The location tex/[whatever] won't work in general. Mojca
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 18:53, Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
So following your instructions I get:
C:\Users\Christopher>kpsewhich -progname=texexec basic-template c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex
Does it help if you move the file to c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/context/third/mine/basic-template.tex
The important thing might be to put it under tex/context/[whatever]. The location tex/[whatever] won't work in general.
ah ... clever ... i hadn't noticed that .. indeed context related files reside under tex/context, that's the way tds + lookups work ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
OK, that fixes it (except I prefer tex/context/user/mine). I have been using tex/sources for over a decade though. Many thanks for your patience. Christopher Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 18:53, Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
So following your instructions I get:
C:\Users\Christopher>kpsewhich -progname=texexec basic-template c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex
Does it help if you move the file to c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/context/third/mine/basic-template.tex
The important thing might be to put it under tex/context/[whatever]. The location tex/[whatever] won't work in general.
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On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 16:04, Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
OK, that fixes it (except I prefer tex/context/user/mine). I have been using tex/sources for over a decade though.
It depends on settings of TeX distribution. You can change that in texmf.cnf: (TeX Live:) TEXINPUTS.context = .;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain,generic,}// (Minimals:) TEXINPUTS.context = .;{$TXRESOURCES}//;{$CTXDEVTXPATH};$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic}// You can overwrite just that variable in your local tree. Mojca
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